Anyone still thinking of voting tory at the next General Election?

I think you might mean my post at 21.43.

Yes, that's it RichmondPark1 Thank you.

Labour tend to give money away when they are in power

How can this thought persists when we have recent experience of the Conservative party giving away/wasting billions on contracts, mostly handed to friends without correct process, during the pandemic. Billions splurged with little result.

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/17/world/europe/britain-covid-contracts.html

I'm also baffled by people who appear intent on deciding how to vote based purely on the content of a manifesto. Does the evidence of all experience during the past 12 years count for nothing?

volver

We're doomed.

We're really doomed.

A lifetime of experience for most of us and there are still folk who think the Labour Party are closet communists, and others who think they're too far to the right.

And I wish I could find that post from last night that showed that a huge proportion of people on benefits are actually in work so that "make them destitute to get off their lazy fat ar*es" isn't a valid political position.

I think you might mean my post at 21.43.

Time will tell. It will either be an unmitigated disaster or - what Laura Norder says. Hope for everyone’s sake it is the latter.

For everybody who says they live in a safe Tory seat. Never give up.

Yammy

I'm a floating voter, but where I live it is pointless voting Labour or Liberal Democrat it's the old Willy Whitelaw seat of Thatcher fame"Everyone needs a Willy". I liked Rory Stewart he did loads after the bad storms a few years ago I could not tell you the name of the present one.
I certainly will not vote Conservative if the pair we have now are still leading. I wanted Sunak. Who better than a person of colour with a good grasp of the economy? I hope he tries again and does not leave as David Milliband did the labour party.

Agree with this although we also have an MP who is useless but he has a safe Tory seat. However, if things continue as they are I think even he will feel his seat shaking. Meanwhile “the rich get richer and the poor get poorer”. Except we haven’t got fun, just plain disappointment and misery.

SecondhandRose

Just putting this out there. When my very elderly mother passes away I will inherit approx £200k. Parents paid all their taxes, national insurance etc.

If we carry on with the Tories that money will be safe and I can use it to get my children on the housing ladder. If we don’t carry on with the Tories I have no doubt Labour will claw back money that has already been taxed and my children won’t get on the housing ladder until we die or downsize considerably.

You know that the minute you spend any of it it will be taxed, whoever is in government. Because there is very little we buy that isn't subject to taxation.

If we carry on with the Tories that money will be safe

Ya think???? Good luck with that one...

And to hell with the rest of you.

Ah, the Conservative rallying cry...

Just putting this out there. When my very elderly mother passes away I will inherit approx £200k. Parents paid all their taxes, national insurance etc.

If we carry on with the Tories that money will be safe and I can use it to get my children on the housing ladder. If we don’t carry on with the Tories I have no doubt Labour will claw back money that has already been taxed and my children won’t get on the housing ladder until we die or downsize considerably.

Personally, I vote for whoever will make me richer & my life easier.
I’m a very selfish voter.

We're doomed.

We're really doomed.

A lifetime of experience for most of us and there are still folk who think the Labour Party are closet communists, and others who think they're too far to the right.

And I wish I could find that post from last night that showed that a huge proportion of people on benefits are actually in work so that "make them destitute to get off their lazy fat ar*es" isn't a valid political position.

Allsorts

This post should be on news and politics.

I put it on Chat because I thought it would reach a larger section of the Gnet community. We're always being told that people don't venture onto N & P. I was genuinely curious to know if people would still vote tory despite the Truss/Kwarteng induced currency crisis.

Once a thread is started the OP has no control over how it develops.

It's been interesting

09:14swampy1961

I agree with you swampy no need to hide behind a rock.

swampy1961

Most likely! Even though Boris was an idiot - he was still better than the latest shower. I'd have thought more of Boris if he had admitted to his transgressions than lying!!
But I feel Labour have slight communist tendencies and want to share the wealth without encouraging people to get out there and earn their money and therefore improve their lot.
A former work colleague whose Mum is a Labour MP has admitted that Labour tend to give money away when they are in power and then let a new government take the flak for cuts only to give it all away again when they get back into power creating a vicious historical circle.
I must admit though that benefits need to be way below the National Minimum Wage to make people realise that working is the better option so it will be interesting to see if KK and LT do anything about this.
Off to hide under my rock!!

Don’t worry. I’m sure they’re working on it…..

Most likely! Even though Boris was an idiot - he was still better than the latest shower. I'd have thought more of Boris if he had admitted to his transgressions than lying!!
But I feel Labour have slight communist tendencies and want to share the wealth without encouraging people to get out there and earn their money and therefore improve their lot.
A former work colleague whose Mum is a Labour MP has admitted that Labour tend to give money away when they are in power and then let a new government take the flak for cuts only to give it all away again when they get back into power creating a vicious historical circle.
I must admit though that benefits need to be way below the National Minimum Wage to make people realise that working is the better option so it will be interesting to see if KK and LT do anything about this.
Off to hide under my rock!!

Ive voted conservative all my life but I would not vote for them tomorrow if there was a general election. Its difficult to say who (if anyone) I would vote for.

Sorry - an extra ‘to’ in the first sentence.

It’s early in the day for me, but is the implication here that Labour stands for making those who work to give money to those who don’t, the Tories are the party of full employment and the Lib Dems are about advertising vacancies or something?

I’m unconvinced about any of that. In my version of the tale, Labour would take some of the £25 and build homes for the man’s friends, and the Tories would want the man to cut the grass for a tenner and be grateful for the work. The Lib Dems would promise the man he would get the money then sign off on a policy that charged him £20 for the lawnmower when they got his vote.

M0nica ???

Perhaps this wise child should have suggested that 'I' went across and asked the homeless man at the grocery store whether he would like to come over to these jobs and be paid for it. Because how can he know he could earn some money this way if nobody tells him. I bet he would be over like aa shot. And if more people told him about these jobs, he would soon be able to afford somewhere to live.

Welcome to the Liberal Democrats.

Maudi

**07:47SecondhandRose

It's the truth SecondhandRose

I wonder what she’ll do when she’s no longer prime minister, and lacks the skills to mow her own lawn?

**07:47SecondhandRose

It's the truth SecondhandRose

Unfortunately this is the myth/truth/urbanmyth who knows? You decide.

Welcome to the conservative party
I asked my friend’s little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be Prime Minister some day.

Both her parents, Labour supporters, were standing there, so I asked her, “If you were Prime Minister what would be the first thing you would do?”

She replied, “I’d give food and houses to all the homeless people.”

Her parents beamed, and said, “Welcome to the Labour Party!”

“Wow…what a worthy goal!” I told her. I continued, “But you don’t have to wait until you’re Prime Minister to do that. You can come over to my house, mow the lawn, pull weeds, sweep my drive and I’ll pay you £25. Then I’ll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out. You can give him the £25 to use toward food.”

She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, “Why doesn’t the homeless guy come over and do the work and you can just pay him the £25?”

I smiled and said:

"Welcome to the Conservative Party.”

But unfortunately the super rich don't pay taxes. They take dividends from their companies and they borrow from their companies.