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NanKate Fri 28-Oct-22 21:04:52

RIP Jerry Lee Lewis

NanKate Sat 29-Oct-22 20:40:50

Thanks folks for your kind comments.

We have seen a stage show twice called ‘Sun Studios’ very similar to the show Kitty mentioned. It’s doing the rounds now and we saw it in September.

Love the Rock and Roll years.

Redhead56 Sat 29-Oct-22 19:02:58

His personal life might have been criticised but he entertained millions. My husbands grandparents married they were first cousins with the same surname. It was an arranged marriage so they had no say in the matter.

Callistemon21 Sat 29-Oct-22 17:30:41

kittylester

*Calli*, it's not on Netflix as far as I know. We have only seen it on stage.

There are some amazing young musicians in the parts.

Oooh and Jason Donovan as the owner of Sun Records - whose name escapes me!!

Oh, a stage show!
Sounds good

Chestnut Sat 29-Oct-22 17:21:57

The Million Dollar Quartet was an actual event which was made into a stage show. Can you imagine those four together....this was the birth of rock 'n roll!
The soundtrack is available on CD or vinyl.
Audio CD on Amazon

kittylester Sat 29-Oct-22 17:20:21

Not sure it still is grannmarie but we absolutely loved it and will no doubt go again should it reappear.

Grannmarie Sat 29-Oct-22 17:05:01

kittylester

Don't apologise, kate. This has brought back brilliant memories of a fabulous musical called The Million Dollar Quartet about the imaginary time that Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins, Elvis Presley and JLL were all at Sun Records on the same day.

It is a wonderful excuse for loads of great music.

We've only seen it 4 times.

We saw that in Vegas, Kitty, it was an amazing show. Didn't realise that it was on in the UK. 👍

kittylester Sat 29-Oct-22 16:50:32

Calli, it's not on Netflix as far as I know. We have only seen it on stage.

There are some amazing young musicians in the parts.

Oooh and Jason Donovan as the owner of Sun Records - whose name escapes me!!

Chestnut Sat 29-Oct-22 16:41:46

Callistemon21

Chestnut

It is not illegal to marry your first cousin, let alone your second.

Oh, heaven forbid, can't bear the thought!
😁

I have a great aunt aged 19 years who married her first cousin in the late 1800s. They had 13 children, 4 of them died as babies, 9 survived and there were 15 grandchildren. 😲

Fleurpepper Sat 29-Oct-22 15:59:16

Chestnut my father's sister married her cousin in the 40s, in the States. And yes, not considered incest. Not excusing the man, he certainly does seem to have made a right mess of it all, but!

Went to a lovely small wedding with young friends yesterday, and at the Inn where we went to have lunch, we had drinks in the bar at the back and they had the most amazing collection of vinyls! All originals from the late 50s to 70s. Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Aretha, Leonard Cohen, Beatles and Stones, and ... JLL. We listened to it but none of us were aware of the significance.

Callistemon21 Sat 29-Oct-22 15:56:34

kittylester

Don't apologise, kate. This has brought back brilliant memories of a fabulous musical called The Million Dollar Quartet about the imaginary time that Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins, Elvis Presley and JLL were all at Sun Records on the same day.

It is a wonderful excuse for loads of great music.

We've only seen it 4 times.

Thanks kittylester - is it on Netflix?

Callistemon21 Sat 29-Oct-22 15:55:06

Chestnut

It is not illegal to marry your first cousin, let alone your second.

Oh, heaven forbid, can't bear the thought!
😁

kittylester Sat 29-Oct-22 15:50:41

Don't apologise, kate. This has brought back brilliant memories of a fabulous musical called The Million Dollar Quartet about the imaginary time that Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins, Elvis Presley and JLL were all at Sun Records on the same day.

It is a wonderful excuse for loads of great music.

We've only seen it 4 times.

Chestnut Sat 29-Oct-22 14:34:12

JLL did not have a relationship with his mother or daughter (as far as I know) so did not have an incestuous marriage as some have claimed. Cousin marriages are prohibited in some cultures and encouraged in others. They are not illegal in the UK or in many US states.

NotSpaghetti Sat 29-Oct-22 14:32:46

Some places, in some circumstances, still allow marriage to girls we would consider "under age" - even in the West.
Here's the USA info for example:
worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/marriage-age-by-state

Chestnut Sat 29-Oct-22 14:25:46

It is not illegal to marry your first cousin, let alone your second.

Glorianny Sat 29-Oct-22 14:23:07

BlueBelle

I m certainly not looking to be offended chestnut and Nannykate you didn’t offend me in the least so no need to a
apologise but saying others have been nasty pieces of work doesn’t excuse him and I think everyone should know the truth it was nt just about him marrying a young child at all it was about abuse, a possible murder, living bigamously
His whole life he got away with it because he was famous and talented I think you can love the persons music or art but need to realise the man personality behind the fame …that’s all

He didn't actually "get away with it" in 1958 he was blacklisted because of his young wife and he had virtually no income.. As for the issue of her being his (second) cousin, in the US they are sometimes known as "kissing cousins"

Callistemon21 Sat 29-Oct-22 14:11:06

Thank you for starting the thread, NanKate

It has opened up an interesting discussion. I remember the furore when he arrived here in the UK with Myra. They may have been surprised at the reactions as, back home in Louisiana, their marriage wouldn't have been unusual at the time.
She is still alive, aged 78 and wrote books including Great Balls of Fire (turned into a film) and The Spark That Survived.

BlueBelle Sat 29-Oct-22 14:04:24

I m certainly not looking to be offended chestnut and Nannykate you didn’t offend me in the least so no need to a
apologise but saying others have been nasty pieces of work doesn’t excuse him and I think everyone should know the truth it was nt just about him marrying a young child at all it was about abuse, a possible murder, living bigamously
His whole life he got away with it because he was famous and talented I think you can love the persons music or art but need to realise the man personality behind the fame …that’s all

Norah Sat 29-Oct-22 13:56:47

Visgir1

Just read his Obituary in The Times.. Crikey that was an eye opener?
I didn't know anything about him.
Or tbh his Music..
It also said Elvis was going out with Priscilla when she was 14..
Bloody hell!!

I was dating my husband at 12 and married at 16. Still married at 77.

Some people date and marry young.

That is truly not offensive, imo.

Norah Sat 29-Oct-22 13:52:50

NanKate

Thank you to those who understood that I didn’t mean to cause offence. ?

You didn't cause offense. He was a fantastic performer.

Learning is not offensive either, now we know.

People did marry early in his day, many people have multiple marriages.

People's abusive behaviours, substance abuses, adultery, theft, murder are never acceptable. Good discussion.

Callistemon21 Sat 29-Oct-22 13:33:53

Glorianny

Great musician and performer. Completely screwed up private life. The 13 year old he married has managed to write her own account of what happened. He grew up in a culture where early marriage was common (he was 16 when he first married). Different times, different values.

Yes, the legal age for marriage was 11 or 12 in some states of America at that time.
The marriage to Myra was probably bigamous.

One of his other wives was 14 and he was 16 when they wed.

Callistemon21 Sat 29-Oct-22 13:28:02

Visgir1

Just read his Obituary in The Times.. Crikey that was an eye opener?
I didn't know anything about him.
Or tbh his Music..
It also said Elvis was going out with Priscilla when she was 14..
Bloody hell!!

I think he asked her father's permission!

Prentice Sat 29-Oct-22 13:24:51

I had thought that he had died many years ago.

Blondiescot Sat 29-Oct-22 13:20:54

NotSpaghetti - I was discussing this with a friend on Facebook earlier today and we agreed. I think it is possible to accept that a person had talent and their music/art/literature, whatever, has merit, but in the cold light of the present day, that legacy will always be tainted. Yes, times were different then and attitudes have changed, but that doesn't mean we should just brush these things under the carpet because the person involved had talent or was some kind of celebrity.

NotSpaghetti Sat 29-Oct-22 13:03:15

You are right, Blondiescot talent can never override abuse but it is tainted by it.

I think we can agree on this!
(And about the 60s/70s/80s whatever too).