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kittylester Thu 03-Nov-22 09:34:34

On the thread about roast beef, lots of people talk about doing a roast with 'all the trimmings'.

I know what all the trimmings are but why, and when, did people start calling roast potatoes, veg, gravy etc 'trimmings'?

icanhandthemback Sun 06-Nov-22 11:47:50

My Dad, who was in the Royal Navy, used to use the term 50 years ago and so did his colleagues so I don't think it is a new turn of phrase. As somebody down thread said, trimmings are embellishments so to me, that is what the pigs in blankets, stuffing, etc are. Traditionally they were make weights to supplement the small portions of meat. Nowadays, you seem to get a generous portion of meat along with a great quantity of "trimmings" so maybe they are no longer embellishments!

J52 Fri 04-Nov-22 08:07:59

Like some others ‘all the trimmings’ is a phrase I’d never heard until a few years ago and I think that was in a TV advert.
Seems an odd thing to say about the usual accompaniments to roast meat.
It does make me think of Christmas decorations, when applied to Christmas dinner.

kittylester Fri 04-Nov-22 07:55:48

I do Pigs in blankets because the butcher actually does them!

I think I can identify the words you dislike but it might not be a good idea. 'Gravy dinner' is on my list too.

Lucca Fri 04-Nov-22 07:15:16

kittylester

Lucca

Don’t know why but I can’t bear that expression “
all the trimmings””

A sentence that would set my teeth on edge would be “my hubby made a roast dinner with all the trimmings but I made a really moist chocolate cake. LOL”

Are you my twin, lucca?

I do love the 'trimmings' - it's the word I hate. I'm so glad that more of you dislike it.

Can you identify the words I hate ?!

Re the pigs in blankets thing i don’t do those I I make something called bacon olives. Forcemeat stuffing wrapped in bacon stuck on skewers and cooked in oven.

kittylester Thu 03-Nov-22 17:18:43

I love Yorkshire Pudding and curry but not together

I do remember when pubs did plate sized Yorkshire puddings with, sausage and gravy in.

Love curry with a Madhur Jaffrey (sp) rice with herbs or naan.

And, love haggis in the traditional way as it was after a Burn's supper that DH proposed - nearly 54 years ago.

LadyHonoriaDedlock Thu 03-Nov-22 16:50:27

kittylester

Ooooh, no. That's weird! grin

I like curry, I like Yorkshire pudding, so it makes sense to me.

Which raises the whole question of whether food should always be eaten in a particular traditional way or whether it's ok to ring the changes with fusion styles.

For example, should haggis always be eaten with bashed tatties (makes sense sometimes) and cheppit neeps (can't stand the things, not plain boiled anyway)? Or as haggis supper, a tempura with salade Glasvège? Or is the very delicious haggis pakora in order?

kittylester Thu 03-Nov-22 16:32:00

Ooooh, no. That's weird! grin

LadyHonoriaDedlock Thu 03-Nov-22 15:33:16

Jaxjacky

Am I the only person who’s not bothered about Yorkshire puddings? They don’t really taste of much and are so big sometimes (when you eat out) they take up space.

Yorkshire pudding – big ones not individual ones – filled with curry. Serious yumminess.

FannyCornforth Thu 03-Nov-22 15:30:07

Thank you both! I’m amazed that I’ve never heard of them.

kittylester Thu 03-Nov-22 14:51:59

Sago

FannyCornforth Game chips are wafer thin potato slices dusted in flour and salt then deep fried.
I serve them with grouse and pheasant.

Sago, I don't dust game chips with flour but I cut them with a wavy chip slicer thingy.

NotSpaghetti Thu 03-Nov-22 14:39:12

Oh Sago
everything was poorly cooked and served with a big dollop of resentment
This makes me so sad for you.
💐

Sago Thu 03-Nov-22 14:35:01

FannyCornforth Game chips are wafer thin potato slices dusted in flour and salt then deep fried.
I serve them with grouse and pheasant.

kittylester Thu 03-Nov-22 13:42:11

I do Yorkshire puddings in deep bun tins.

Fleurpepper, I know what the trimmings consist of but do you know why, and since when, do we call them 'Trimmings'.

Oopsadaisy1 Thu 03-Nov-22 12:26:49

I always thought that if you ordered a Roast from a Restaurant with all the ‘trimmings’ you got exactly what you cooked as a normal roast at home.

Nightsky2 Thu 03-Nov-22 12:01:45

Jaxjacky

Am I the only person who’s not bothered about Yorkshire puddings? They don’t really taste of much and are so big sometimes (when you eat out) they take up space.

No you’re not. We never have them.

kittylester Thu 03-Nov-22 12:00:47

Lucca

Don’t know why but I can’t bear that expression “
all the trimmings””

A sentence that would set my teeth on edge would be “my hubby made a roast dinner with all the trimmings but I made a really moist chocolate cake. LOL”

Are you my twin, lucca?

I do love the 'trimmings' - it's the word I hate. I'm so glad that more of you dislike it.

Jaxjacky Thu 03-Nov-22 11:40:47

Am I the only person who’s not bothered about Yorkshire puddings? They don’t really taste of much and are so big sometimes (when you eat out) they take up space.

Fleurpepper Thu 03-Nov-22 11:30:07

roast potatoes but with parsnips too. And horse radish- can't have roast beef without. Yorkshire puds, of course, and seasonal vegetables- and gravy!

Nightsky2 Thu 03-Nov-22 11:19:41

Sago

Grandmarderby10 In 1983 I was a new wife and mum with a small budget!
A roast then was one of the best value meals I could cook.
Roast on Sunday, left overs on as least Monday and lots of little pots of food in the freezer for our little girl.
I had Delias complete cookery course as a wedding gift and it became my bible.
She taught me so much, what in 1983 felt like a day of a job to prepare soon became easy and second nature.
I will be forever grateful for her common sense approach to cookery.

I didn’t have a mother who enjoyed feeding us, everything was poorly cooked and served with a big dollop of resentment.
So I entered my marriage with very little idea of how to cater for a family.

We are now in a much better place financially but the frugality from our early years of marriage has stayed with us, nothing is ever wasted our 3 AC are the same and somehow the rich gravy, crispy roasties and Yorkies touching the top of the oven all seem to just happen with minimal stress and effort.
.

I’m with Kitty on this one, no trimmings here.

Sago…..I’ve still got my Delia’s cookery book given to me as a wedding gift by SiL in 1971. I also remember thinking how mean of her😄. She’s always been very tight. How times have changed!.

Like yours, my mother was a dreadful cook, everything drowned in gravy and meat always overdone and very chewy. My sister and I did have cookery lessons at our Convent school but I never enjoyed it and it was pretty basic stuff.

I’ve been very lucky as I married a man who could cook and he still does a lot of it. I still refer to Delia’s. I did learn to cook quite well when our children were small as I went on a few cookery courses. I had to as DH had to entertain quite a lot of clients which always threw me into a panic. I don’t actually enjoy cooking, never have. My best friend is never out of her kitchen, she’s an amazing cook but she loves doing it all.

FannyCornforth Thu 03-Nov-22 11:15:31

I used to love going with my mom to the haberdashery department in Rackhams, Birmingham 🥰

Blossoming Thu 03-Nov-22 11:07:52

I don’t like the expression, it grates somehow.

Trimmings are embellishments bought from the haberdashery. I sew more than I cook grin

maddyone Thu 03-Nov-22 11:00:30

kittylester my MiL always said her roast came with all the trimmings. It was the first time I’d heard the expression and I was still a teenager when I first heard her say it. I always think of her when I hear those words.

Riverwalk Thu 03-Nov-22 10:53:38

I can't bear yorkies! The word that is, not the pudding!

Lucca Thu 03-Nov-22 10:47:42

Don’t know why but I can’t bear that expression “
all the trimmings””

A sentence that would set my teeth on edge would be “my hubby made a roast dinner with all the trimmings but I made a really moist chocolate cake. LOL”

kittylester Thu 03-Nov-22 10:42:39

annsixty

I don’t know the answer to that kitty
Is it only in recent times?
I don’t think we did in “the olden days”

In the old days (!!!) it was what happened. I have to admit that I find it quite irritating and yorkshire puddings with turrkey are a complete no no!

Game chips are sort of crisps served with pheasant and other game birds along with, often, a hidden piece of lead shot designed to keep your dentist happy.