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NanKate Mon 07-Nov-22 16:29:22

My lovely 97 year old friend has a birthday today. Her daughter was taking her to The Ivy for a celebratory lunch. She was so looking forward to it. However the daughter was held up for hours on the M25 by the Protesters on the gantries. So my friend never had her birthday lunch or saw her daughter. I’m so disappointed for her.

We are a democracy so I am not against protests per se, but when they cause such chaos and upset it’s unforgivable.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 09-Nov-22 09:08:44

granddaddy should have been *granddaughter auto correct 🤬

GrannyGravy13 Wed 09-Nov-22 09:07:16

Just Stop Oil gets most of its funding from The Climate Emergency Fund.

This is a US based network set up in 2019 to fund climate activism

Which in turn is part funded by Aileen Getty granddaddy of J Paul Getty the petroleum tycoon.

JSO is registered at Companies House, listing one director Roger Hallam.

(Source BBC Google)

Whiff Wed 09-Nov-22 09:02:08

Sorry so many lives have be disrupted by these idiots. Does make me laugh thought their slogan is Just Stop Oil. So does that mean olive,rape seed ,vegetable oil etc. Haven't thought their slogan through.

Do not of these people work? If they are on benefits then they need them take off them . Also a prison sentence would make them see real life.

When will these eco groups realise people come first they aren't achieving anything. They are just hurting people who are trying to get to work, medical appointments ,school etc.

They have to much time on their hands get them to do some physical labour see what real life is like.

No wonder crimes are going unsolved because the police time is taken up by them.

My favourite picture was from some time ago when a protester sat on the roof of an underground train and the commuters pulled him off and he then complained because he got beaten up. What did he expect.

I don't advocate violence but can understand why it happened.

MerylStreep Wed 09-Nov-22 08:59:24

Queen luvvy, Emily Maitless likens the protesters to Rosa Parks and the suffragettes.

MerylStreep Wed 09-Nov-22 08:42:31

This is what can happen to anyone who who protests outside any building belonging to the Chinese government. This is in full view of British police.

www.reuters.com/world/uk/police-investigate-beating-protester-china-consulate-grounds-uk-2022-10-17/

JaneJudge Wed 09-Nov-22 08:41:14

I think you are right GG13 as the company I work for are being disrupted too, I imagine most companies are nr the M25 in one way or another

GrannyGravy13 Wed 09-Nov-22 08:36:02

They have just announced in the news that there has been a collision resulting in injuries as a direct result of these actions.

Do we wait for a fatality due to their actions?

GrannyGravy13 Wed 09-Nov-22 08:27:46

As an employer why would you employ someone who has to use the M25 over anyone who doesn’t, however qualified they might be?

Working from home isn’t an option for some professions.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 09-Nov-22 08:25:50

NanKate

I’m sorry to hear that GG. So many people’s daily lives are being disrupted. I suspect it will continue for a while.

Problems will arise when company’s inside the M25 start looking to source their goods within the M25.

They will take the hit of higher prices over disrupted deliveries/supplies.

If these disruptive elements carry on there will be small enterprises going out of business and multiple job losses.

NanKate Wed 09-Nov-22 08:20:02

I’m sorry to hear that GG. So many people’s daily lives are being disrupted. I suspect it will continue for a while.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 09-Nov-22 07:52:16

Well they have closed the M25 at our nearest junction (10 minutes away) so they main A road is already overly busy.

It will disrupt our business yet again 🤬🤬

nanna8 Wed 09-Nov-22 07:28:15

Why don’t they just go and stand on a beach with a trident and shout at the waves ?

M0nica Wed 09-Nov-22 07:25:30

While writing the above and having watched the twitter clip of their leader and his desire to bring on the collapse of society and the international nature of these demonstrations. I am beginning to wonder just how much these demonstrations are about climate change and how much they are about using climate change as a tool on an international basis to try and bring on the collapse of society he so devoutly hopes for and all its opportunities to assert male dominance and oppress women.

In the link we were given, albeit, a snippet without any context and his connections with Calvin Robinson and his equally strange and rightwing views. I am beginning to wonder if the purpose of these demonstrations that do nothing to promote their purported cause and cause nothing but anger are part of a wider conspiracy of extreme right wing groups to to cause disaffection in society and to get people angry and frustrated, a state of mind that makes them more likely to be susceptible to fascist and extremist views. Remember, the Nazi party came into power in Germany because they were able to play on the anger and disruption of society that followed WW1.

Calendargirl Wed 09-Nov-22 07:14:05

Well, perhaps they should think about the consequences of their stupid actions MOnica.

That’s the whole point. If they thought that they would be ‘ripped’ from the road, they probably wouldn’t be so keen to do it.

M0nica Wed 09-Nov-22 07:08:35

I do think ripping them from the roads is a step too far. They may well leave their skin behind and as a result they will be disabled for life.

However much I disagree with these demonstrators and have nothing but contempt for their pointless attention seeking, I do not think their behaviour justifies the police, or any other person deliberately giving them a life-long disability.

maddyone Tue 08-Nov-22 22:40:47

French police have ripped them from the roads, Italian citizens have also ripped them from the roads. As Monica mentions, they were left in the museum in Germany during the night without any facilities provided. It seems others who are in the EU do not take such a passive approach.

M0nica Tue 08-Nov-22 22:31:01

That is what they did in Germany when they played their tricks at a Car Museum. Lights and heating went off as usual when the museum reached closing time and the protestors complaained because they were left cold, and with out food and water, plus any means of going to the loo, even thought hey had asked for them!!!

We are not the only ones suffering with these loons.

Allsorts Tue 08-Nov-22 16:49:08

Wish they could just leave there stuck to the road, no food or toilets, but we need the roads, so send them the bills or stop their benefits.

NanKate Tue 08-Nov-22 16:45:01

We’re there Phew. Only took a couple of hours plus a short stop at Services. So relieved.

Thanks for the supportive replies. 👍

Wyllow3 Tue 08-Nov-22 16:42:24

CraftyGranny

I think these people are protesting in the wrong places. Maybe outside the embassies of those countries that are doing nothing about the climate would be a better target

Every country is damaging the climate at the moment, although some more than others.

Extremes, and combinations in-between:

Excessively high energy USE in everyday life and depleting the planets' resources because the level of consumption is not congruent with maintaining the planet itself

ABUSE of resources that keep our climate healthier

Excessively high use of resources that pollute for industry etc

In these there is a mix of very rich countries, very poor countries (cannot wean themselves off resources sale/use with out help), and lots of in-betweeners.

rosie1959 Tue 08-Nov-22 15:27:53

CraftyGranny

I think these people are protesting in the wrong places. Maybe outside the embassies of those countries that are doing nothing about the climate would be a better target

Problem is everyone would just ignore their protest it would not effect anyone's daily life. Unfortunately due to health and safety they can't be ignored up on a motorway gantry, if they just opened the motorway up they would soon get bored.
Stiff custodial sentences might deter them a couple of years at his majesties pleasure with no parole might make them think twice.

CraftyGranny Tue 08-Nov-22 12:48:18

I think these people are protesting in the wrong places. Maybe outside the embassies of those countries that are doing nothing about the climate would be a better target

NanKate Tue 08-Nov-22 09:39:48

Thanks GG that might be a last resort. It would be a lot further and not a motorway we know.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 08-Nov-22 09:09:32

NanKate

Well here we go again.!!!

We are all packed up ready to get on the M25 travelling from South Bucks to near Brighton to look after the DGSs and there are Protestor stoppages in 2 place we hope to pass through.

We’ve decided to wait until this afternoon before setting off and if the motorway is still closed will have to embark on a much longer journey to reach our destination. At 76 and 77 we don’t like driving in the dark but that may happen.

I am thoroughly sick of these Protestors and I too would join youRafich dragging these mindless people out of the way and the mood I’m in I would give them a kick in my old lady shoes 👞

If I get there today I will let you know.

Still fuming 😡😡

The motorway is open clockwise, could you go that way?

NanKate Tue 08-Nov-22 09:05:07

Well here we go again.!!!

We are all packed up ready to get on the M25 travelling from South Bucks to near Brighton to look after the DGSs and there are Protestor stoppages in 2 place we hope to pass through.

We’ve decided to wait until this afternoon before setting off and if the motorway is still closed will have to embark on a much longer journey to reach our destination. At 76 and 77 we don’t like driving in the dark but that may happen.

I am thoroughly sick of these Protestors and I too would join youRafich dragging these mindless people out of the way and the mood I’m in I would give them a kick in my old lady shoes 👞

If I get there today I will let you know.

Still fuming 😡😡