Charles may pay for Andrew's security

Guiffre's dad used to drive her to those parties. I wouldn't have.

"My daughter is granddaughter would never be in that role"

So what's different about the girls who do end up sex trafficked?

That isn't a defence of his attitude of entitlement or his misogyny in treating women as he would treat a gourmet meal - no more than a pleasant way to spend an evening, prepared for his delight by experts, enjoyed briefly, paid for and then forgotten.

VioletSky

How many would be happy for their daughter or granddaughter to be alone with him?

My daughter or granddaughter would never have been in his presence in the role of a "party girl" who would be willing to have sex with him in exchange for money. Being too stupid and/or arrogant to recognise the fact that it may indeed have been a role, scripted by a procurer, rehearsed and coached to perfection with other audiences and performed enthusiastically by someone dazzled by his social position doesn't make him a dangerous rapist likely to ravish ten women a day.

nanna8 Yes I do believe the rf would strip PA of duties for the one error of judgement... not an offence as not been before a court!.
it was being dragged out so the issue couldn't be allowed to ruin the 'firm' .

where's m & h,

Hugh Grant
Tiger Woods
Charlie Sheen
There is a long list of Male stars, sportsmen etc who have used prostitutes, PA really wouldnt be unique.

Do you honestly think the RF would strip PA of all his duties for this one offence? There is a lot we are not being told and likely many,many other unsavoury incidences.

Anniebach

Men like Andrew and the many celebrity men don’t have to look for girls exploited for sex, why can it not be said , there are
girls eager for flings with these men , probably in the hope of long term .

I agree. I am aware of how this happens with high-level sportsmen, along the same lines. DS was at the high level for a few years and he told me that he could have had any girl he wanted during that time. Sports groupies were always enthusiastically available to these men, no matter how unattractive the men were .
If a man is / was a prince , I'd guess that he'd never have to work too hard to find willing partners.

Why are you saying this to me? Sorry, I just don't understand what you are getting at?

VS Why do you need to get all emotional to think something is wrong? Can one not know with absolute assurance that smething is wrong and should be stopped. I have aways found that a cold hard unemotional determination is far more effective in getting change than getting all emotional.

Oh dear. Without my glasses I misread the first post as 'pray for' rather than 'pay for'. I suppose Charles might do that.

No

Give it a rest on Christmas day

Anniebach

Men like Andrew and the many celebrity men don’t have to look for girls exploited for sex, why can it not be said , there are
girls eager for flings with these men , probably in the hope of long term .

It can be and is said.
The point being laboured is that children aged 12-14, targeted, groomed, trafficked and drawn into sexual exploitation, are not capable of informed consent . They’re damaged by the exploitation.

But the chances of women getting justice in these type of cases are low, there was never any chance of it getting to court. I absolutely would have taken a settlement in her shoes.
Hugh Grant used prostitutes, I assume he had many offers from women, that's not what the use of prostitutes is about. I dont think these girls were prostitutes but that is the word being used on here.

VioletSky

Men like him are the reason girls are being exploited for sex from a young age.

And women think that's OK

It's gross

And yes that makes me emotional, if it doesn't you, then what's wrong with you?

Which women think girls being exploited isn’t wrong VS?

Galaxy, the monetary settlement was in the context of proposed civil proceedings.
not a criminal trial, either in uk or usa.
so talk of prosecution, offences, guilt etc are out of place.
confusing these categories is not helpful.

The attraction of power?
About time it ended.

Men like Andrew and the many celebrity men don’t have to look for girls exploited for sex, why can it not be said , there are
girls eager for flings with these men , probably in the hope of long term .

Which women think that's ok, VS. Nobody on this thread, as far as I can see.

Men like him are the reason girls are being exploited for sex from a young age.

And women think that's OK

It's gross

And yes that makes me emotional, if it doesn't you, then what's wrong with you?

Exactly Galaxy. The suggestion that ‘nubile’ young women can make mincemeat of predatory men is indeed magical thinking.

What you are saying is true Monica, what it means in reality is that most women will never receive justice and most guilty men, in terms of sexual assault, will never be prosecuted for their crimes.
As for people making mincemeat of men, that I am afraid is just magical thinking.

Oh go away with that

Anniebach Prince Andrew was born in 1960, not 1950.