Charles may pay for Andrew's security

Agree with Monica, I heard from someone serving with him how much he was disliked, you kept away from him! However it's up to C if he funds security, it's wages for someone.

paddyann54

Wasn't there a real bunfight on here when M and H wanted security for their family when they came to the UK ? I dont remember anyone saying they should have security even though they had death threats yet the mman who used trafficked females for fun is entitled? Explain to me the reasons for the different outcome...please.
I dont care about any of them but surely if Randy Andy gets secruity the GGC of the late queen should qualify too ..after all THEY haven't trashed the family.

Exactly paddyann.

Smileless2012

We don't know if PA used trafficked females for fun and if he did, we don't know if he knew they were trafficked.

Yes of course. He paid 12 mil to a woman he didn't use and didn't know was dodgy/illegal. As anyone would.

We don't know if PA used trafficked females for fun and if he did, we don't know if he knew they were trafficked.

Wasn't there a real bunfight on here when M and H wanted security for their family when they came to the UK ? I dont remember anyone saying they should have security even though they had death threats yet the mman who used trafficked females for fun is entitled? Explain to me the reasons for the different outcome...please.
I dont care about any of them but surely if Randy Andy gets secruity the GGC of the late queen should qualify too ..after all THEY haven't trashed the family.

Grany

HurdyGurdy

Grany

Charles pays for Andrew’s security with our money.

Does that mean when I buy things, I'm using my employer's money to do so?

Or if someone uses their state pension to buy something, they are spending the Government's money?

Of course not. Once the money is in a person's possession, it is THEIR money. It does not still belong to the source of the income.

We should be paying for one Head of State who main role is to uphold the laws of our constitution and have a word with a PM who breaks these laws the royals don’t do that. Is it any wonder the country is in the state it’s in then. So Charles gives the money we give him to pay for a brother who doesn’t work mind you none of the royals work hardly at all and spend public money on their own pass times.

We need a republic

Yawn.

HurdyGurdy

Grany

Charles pays for Andrew’s security with our money.

Does that mean when I buy things, I'm using my employer's money to do so?

Or if someone uses their state pension to buy something, they are spending the Government's money?

Of course not. Once the money is in a person's possession, it is THEIR money. It does not still belong to the source of the income.

We should be paying for one Head of State who main role is to uphold the laws of our constitution and have a word with a PM who breaks these laws the royals don’t do that. Is it any wonder the country is in the state it’s in then. So Charles gives the money we give him to pay for a brother who doesn’t work mind you none of the royals work hardly at all and spend public money on their own pass times.

We need a republic

Norah

Urmstongran

I think I’m more shocked by the colossal amount of money involved for PA’s security (regardless of who pays it).

£3 million p.a.?
How much do these security firms charge p.a.? Multiplied by several operatives to cover shift patterns & sick leave etc.

But £3 million? Sheesh. A mind boggling sum of money.

Someone will be earning, from the King's money, out into the economy, IF PA's private security happens - paid as stated.

Good for the security firm.

Security for the royals is over £100 million its paid for by the metropolitan police.

Grany

Charles pays for Andrew’s security with our money.

Does that mean when I buy things, I'm using my employer's money to do so?

Or if someone uses their state pension to buy something, they are spending the Government's money?

Of course not. Once the money is in a person's possession, it is THEIR money. It does not still belong to the source of the income.

Wasn't exactly a secret about PA either was it Meryl. The whole world knew about the accusation.

Some families hide abuse, doesn't matter if its a family member or not that was abused

It’s no secret about Clinton. His name has been linked to Epstein for years. Lots of photos with the 2 of them.

As I've said, PA's case was not about abuse within the family so abuse within families is irrelevant.

VioletSky

Yes it does

Many families (accirding to victims) will happily hide internal abuse to save face, external abuse would be even simpler

Here it is again

PA's case isn't about abuse within the family VS, it's about a woman who claims to have been trafficked for sex, having sex with PA who knew she'd been trafficked.

Abuse within families is totally irrelevant to this discussion.

I'm not going to argue about the settlement, we disagree

Yes it does

Many families (accirding to victims) will happily hide internal abuse to save face, external abuse would be even simpler

Where did you read that Jaberwok?

That doesn't apply in PA's case though, he wasn't accused of abusing a family member and his accuser accepted being 'silenced' with a financial settlement.

Loyalty or wish to cleanse the family image?

Many victims of abuse are abused by family members. Often the victim is told to keep quiet or disbelievedby their own family and the offender protected.

That's a broken family

Allegedly, protecting some in high places is the whisper! Clinton ? Allegedly.

His daughters have petitioned the King to reinstate their father, so no lack of loyalty from them.

To say it must be hard for them would be an understatement Yammy.

Smileless2012

We'll never know the real truth Yammy. As for the only two people who do know, one was prepared to pay to make it all go away, and the other prepared to accept payment.

Doesn't say much about either of them really does it.

No it doesn't no scruples at all. I do feel sorry for any of their family, especially those who are getting pulled in when they don't know either.
What must PA's daughters think of him?

Urmstongran

I think I’m more shocked by the colossal amount of money involved for PA’s security (regardless of who pays it).

£3 million p.a.?
How much do these security firms charge p.a.? Multiplied by several operatives to cover shift patterns & sick leave etc.

But £3 million? Sheesh. A mind boggling sum of money.

Someone will be earning, from the King's money, out into the economy, IF PA's private security happens - paid as stated.

Good for the security firm.

Not going to frown on someone who was people trafficked getting compensation from the type of man who funds people trafficking

She got the closest to an admission of guilt and an apology she was able to