Anybody seen the South Park spoof take off of Harry and Megan?

My mother and my DDiL lost, not their mothers, but their fathers when they were in primary school. Each was Daddy's little girl.''This tragedy obviously affected both deeply and that affect is life long.

But it does not follow inevitably that if you lose aparent when young the rest of your life will be a car crash. My mother went on to lead a happy life; a happy marriage, a good parent to three children and a feminist, without realising it, she worked most of her life. My DDiL is similar.

We have only ever heard Prince Harry's side of everything. I think if other members of his family were to speak out, and I hope they don't. It would the story of a loving family who cared deeply for him and did all they could to help him, albeit that they didn't always get it right. It is clear that despite everything he has done over the last few years to distress his family and try and trigger an estrangement, they have said nothing other than make it clear that he is part of the family and always will be.

I actually feel really sorry for him. He seems to be one of those lost souls who wherever he is and whatever he is doing, it is always wrong and it is never as the result of anything he has done. and no one seems able to rescue him from himself.

I have just written in a similar mood on the thread on Katie Price I think she and prince Harry have much in common.

For someone who is apparently continuing to have therapy Harry seems to be amazingly lacking in self awareness. He continually complains about stories about him being leaked, yet sees nothing wrong with giving us the most intimate details about his brother. And surely he must have realised that tell all shows and books would just set the pair of them up as targets - or is he really that naive?

BlueBelle

Perhaps we should bring the stocks back then we can all have a big old laugh as we throw tomatoes at them
Surprised and shocked at you all

Yes we have no tomatoes…

seadragon you are seeing Prince Harry’s situation through the prism of your own eleven year old eyes. I’m so sorry you lost your mother at such a young age and it must have had a profound effect on you. However the similarities with Harry end there. Harry suffered the same loss as you but absolutely nothing else in his life is in any way the same as yours. Nothing else he has experienced or done in his life is the same as you and he needs to be viewed through his actions as an adult, not through the sad events in his childhood as that is now almost thirty years ago, and we are not seeing the same reprehensible behaviour from his brother, who experienced exactly the same loss. The loss of a beloved relative should lead to a person being rather more compassionate, not to them being utterly selfish and devoid of conscience.

Many people on here have experienced many of the problems that Diana, Harry and (to a lesser extent) his wife encountered, but not cushioned by extreme wealth and a life of privilege.
Most, I think, would be ashamed to publicise their misfortunes and play the victim, and far worse, make a great deal of money from so doing, which explains why they are held in contempt.

seadragon You are describing the old Harry, the one we all loved and empathised with. I heard an interview with the lady he went with in the field and she was a very good friend back in those days so knew him well. She said he is like a different person now and she doesn't recognise him. Others have said the same thing. So what do you think has changed him in the last few years? Who or what has turned him into someone who makes his living from being a professional victim?

BlueBelle

How awful that everyone finds it so funny to make fun of others I don’t need to watch it I can see from the glee on here that’s it’s obviously horrible
This is what makes the so called developed world such a nasty place these days
If you think they are nasty people why would you resort to being as bad …. unbelievable😵‍💫

We seem in the minority here, Bluebelle. I have strongly empathised with Prince Harry for years. I met his mother at an AID/HIV conference around the time of his parents' separation and a couple of years before her death in 1997. His father had given his interview: -
1994:Charles admits to an affair on television. During an interview with Jonathan Dimbleby, the reporter asks the prince if he was “faithful” during his marriage. Charles replies, “Yes,” before a pause. “Until it became irretrievably broken down, us both having tried,” he continues. Some tabloid headlines from the time? “Charles: I Cheated on Diana” and “Di Told You So.”
www.vogue.com/article/the-crown-a-timeline-of-prince-charles-and-camilla-parker-bowless-controversial-relationship . My own "annus horibilis" began in 1961. My parents separated when I was 11 after years of acrimony. My beloved grandfather died that same year after a short illness. I also moved school 3 times. My mother was the person who helped me through my upheaval and grief. I was not paraded in my grief before the world but I wept for Prince Harry as he walked behind his mother's coffin glancing up at the cameras trained on him. I cheered him on when he found his niche in the army and went on to set up the Invictus games. My own family served the RN through at least 3 generations. I felt for him again when so many of the military rejected him after his marriage.... My own experience, aged 11 led to my having a near catastrophic psychiatric crisis after the birth of our second child at the age of 26. It necessitated a total of 3 months in a psychiatric hospital and some brutal treatment including ECT. We never know what goes on behind each other's closed doors and my own experience showed that adults ignore a child when you try to tell them, even in my own experience, accusing the child of ingratitude. Princess Diana moved me to tears at the conference where. clearly suffering herself, so thin and so pale, she spoke movingly and convincingly about her work with people living with Aids and then spent time mingling with us , the delegates, afterwards. She had previously inspired me with her work to train as a social worker and I went on to work with people living with Aids in Aberdeen from 1989-1995. I was working for the RN in Faslane Naval base when I heard the news of her death in 1997.
My darling mum always told me never to judge a sausage by its skin and that you can't understand another point of view unless you have walked a mile in their shoes.

It's my view that H&M desperately want to come to the Coronation to gain more kudos and... dare I say/think it ... more fodder for their podcasts etc. so they are keeping their heads down for the foreseeable.

Well, I thought the clips were funny but it became a bit dull if you watched it all.
South Park has a particular market and all the other royals (I think all) have been on it at some point.
Nothing new.

I saw that:' tasteless and boring', and took it as an apt description of M & H.

I see M&H have decided not to sue. Apparently the episode is baseless and boring! Or maybe they figured it would only lead to more ridicule. Or maybe they are learning from the rest of the RF sometimes not replying is the better option when “under attack”.

No one is immune to a South Park roast

They have gransnet covered too lol

www.facebook.com/reel/1857437371295252?s=yWDuG2&fs=e

No I would not normally mock people but there are times when the behaviour of some people goes so far beyond the bounds of what is acceptable and their contempt for us is so palpable that satire is the only possible response.

It is difficult to think of equivalents of the hypocrisy of these two people - and their belief that they are beyond any criticism perhaps Boris Johnson preaching the virtues of mongamy and sexual fidelity, were he to do so, would be the nearest equivalent and the denials that would come from him if anyone challenged him.

Zoejory PMSL 😂😂

Full version here ...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtb6EGZRXGo

Most celebrities will be on the receiving end of some sort of joke or ridicule.

H&M have brought all this on themselves

I rather liked what Jimmy Kimmel recently put out on his show

www.dailymotion.com/video/x8hberp

Of course I don’t love everyone Monica why would you suggest that of course there’s plenty of people I can’t stand or have no time for or totally disagree with but I hope I wouldn’t sink to the depths of this so called mocking humour
Each to his own and if you find it funny that’s up to you but it doesn’t stop me being surprised

Smileless2012

Thanks for the link Chestnut. The "STOP LOOKING AT US" sign cracked me up too Urmstongran.

It hadn't occurred to me until I read your comment but it's very reminiscent of a Spitting Image sketch of Princess Diana - She was pouting and shouting how much she hated the press and the public gaze, while being topless on a balcony. In my memory.
I giggled then too.....

I do not despise H&A, I just think they have behaved very badly towards their families and all SP does is show their lives as they are living them. They keep going on about escaping the thread and seeking privacy while doing everything they can to attract it. SP merely points out the contradiction between what they preach and what they practice.

There are people in this world whose behaviour justifies criticism and that is all that is happening, not abuse, denigration or anything terrible. Just pointing out that someone's behaviour is hypocritical and that a cartoon has caught this aspect of their behaviour perfectly.

Bluebelle can you honestly say that you love everyone and are completely uncritical of everything they do, Putin?Kim what's his name in Korea, Chairman Xi?

I gather a couple of people who were temporarily in Harry's life, a teacher at his school who he mocked for a disability whilst there, when he deemed her sexually unattractive, I haven't read the book so correct me if I'm wrong anybody who has, plus the girl "older woman" he first had sex with, a mere 18 months or so age difference were dragged into the circus without prior consultation as to whether they were agreeable to that or not. Quite aside from the ongoing disclosure of private family matters, again without consultation, I think he demonstrates a complete lack of care and consideration particularly towards a couple or private individuals. He is not a crass and callow youth anymore and given he talks about having his privacy invaded whilst colluding with umpteen people to settle scores, he has demonstrated a complete lack of respect when it suits him.

I think anyone who sets themselves up as some sort of arbiter of how they think others should behave whether they be spiritual leaders, heads of state, royalty, celebrities can expect a certain amount of cynicism from the general public.

So if you all despise them so much, we all resort to the same level of behaviour 🤷🏼‍♂️
For you not me

I thought this was vile.

easybee
Harry did have one but that was removed together with parts of his anatomy.

Bluebelle Just because I, and many others believe in imprisoning murderers, doesn't mean I would rather hang them. Similarly, to make fun of hypocrites doesn't mean that anyone wants to bring back the stocks, and you forgot to mention the ducking stool.

These two people have done exactly what SP shows, told us they want to retreat to live a private life out of the spotlight and have trawled the tv studios of the world and written books that publicise the private lives of people who are meant to be dear to them - and then complain because the press are too interested in their private lives. Talk about pots calling the kettle black!

Had they done what they said, taken Prince Harry's modest but more than adequate fortune, bought a modest house in California, and lived a quiet life within their existing means, they would not be on SP.

But they have instead chosen to buy a hugely expensive house, adopt an equally expensive life style, and fund it by appearing on tv shows, and write books which, true or false, trashes Prince Harry's family. Frankly SP is fair comment and I have no sympathy for these two whatsoever. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

I think for H&M it's a case of 'if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen' Bluebelle. They have been poking the bear for ages but the RF cannot respond as this will only create a royal spat. So South Park has taken the initiative and responded instead. I think most people who have been following the story feel it is well deserved.