The consecrated oil for King's Coronation

That doesn't make sense Franbern.
So the Queen just conveniently died at the right time so that the coronation could just happen at the right time to take our minds off our problems!

I am extremely interested in science, if it wasn’t for medical science I wouldn’t be here.

I have faith one does not exclude the other.

How else could a coronation be planned for a convenient time?

Did he? Wow! 😱

Sir Horace Evans killed King George so the country could have a coronation?

What nonsense Franbern. A coronation takes place following the death of the previous monarch. Not to take anyone’s mind off anything.

There was no internet in the 50s, people were much less informed.

Oh yes, at times of austerity let's have a Coronation 😀
It keeps the plebs in order, reminds them of their place.

Grandma70s

It’s interesting. I suspect postwar Britain was much poorer than today, but I don’t remember anyone saying the Coronation was a waste of money, or indeed talking about the cost at all. People just weren’t so money-minded then.

Oh No, we just knew our place so much better in the fifties.

The rich men in the castle, etc and we others at the gate, touching our forelocks.

Elizabeths coronation used to take our minds of the austerities of those post war years.

They are hoping this coronation will take our minds of fuel and food prices, etc. etc. this time round.

Blossoming

AskAlice

Genuine question, not intended to cause offence. When my babies were baptised oil wasn't used, nor was it used at my GCs christenings. The cross was made on their foreheads with water from the font - is it different with other Christian religions? We are C of E.

I’m an atheist so not well versed in these matters, but I have attended a number of church christenings and I think that in the RC ceremony there is an ‘anointing with chrism’ which is an oil. Have I remembered rightly?

Yes you have, Blossoming.

Some Anglican churches anoint with oil at a baptism too.

Callistemon21

Norah

Luckygirl3

I feel sad about all religions' emphasis on symbols and "magic" as it flies in the face of the hard work of scientists for generations.

I am delighted with religions that practice what they preach and do good in their communities - as long as it is without strings.

Are you speaking of Transubstantiation? Or Rosary?

Or what could you be referencing?

Symbols - like the Cross?

Or the fish?

Right.

I was focused on "magic" - in the eye of the believer.

Magic?
Some Christians look on magic as evil and denounce it.

Norah

Luckygirl3

I feel sad about all religions' emphasis on symbols and "magic" as it flies in the face of the hard work of scientists for generations.

I am delighted with religions that practice what they preach and do good in their communities - as long as it is without strings.

Are you speaking of Transubstantiation? Or Rosary?

Or what could you be referencing?

Symbols - like the Cross?

Or the fish?

Luckygirl3

I feel sad about all religions' emphasis on symbols and "magic" as it flies in the face of the hard work of scientists for generations.

I am delighted with religions that practice what they preach and do good in their communities - as long as it is without strings.

Are you speaking of Transubstantiation? Or Rosary?

Or what could you be referencing?

Absolutely Smileless
One of my best friend’s wife is a GP and he is a psychotherapist.
They are both devout Catholics.
He once said to me that science teaches us that there is so much that is unknown

Having faith and being a scientist are not mutually exclusive Luckygirl. Can you give examples of the symbols and magic you've referred too?

I feel sad about all religions' emphasis on symbols and "magic" as it flies in the face of the hard work of scientists for generations.

I am delighted with religions that practice what they preach and do good in their communities - as long as it is without strings.

AskAlice

Genuine question, not intended to cause offence. When my babies were baptised oil wasn't used, nor was it used at my GCs christenings. The cross was made on their foreheads with water from the font - is it different with other Christian religions? We are C of E.

I’m an atheist so not well versed in these matters, but I have attended a number of church christenings and I think that in the RC ceremony there is an ‘anointing with chrism’ which is an oil. Have I remembered rightly?

Jaberwok

Mumbo Jumbo? Again why is it that only the Christian faith is derided and sneered at, while other faiths, and their traditions are respected, tolerated and of course never questioned or queried, quite rightly so too, but try being a Christian and,God forbid wear a symbol that advertises your faith, and you lay yourself wide open for ridicule. Burn a bible and no one cares, ,burn the Quran? prepare for religious wrath!

Well said.

I am not a devout Christian now but I would defend anyone of any faith and respect their views unless they lead to extremism or alienation from their family.

FannyCornforth

Bridgeit

Same principle applies to Easter (eggs, bunnies)
Christmas, Birthdays ( trees ,baubles , pressies if you are very good )

No, that’s not true, sorry.
All of those things are Pagan symbols and traditions that have got mixed in with Christian celebrations.
They have nothing in common with holy oil at all.

That's right, none of those are Christian traditions.

However, the timings of the Christian festivals do coincide with ancient pagan festivals so both traditions became blended.

Nothing to do with holy oil.

I think the Coronation will bring in plenty of revenue, tourists, mugs, teatowels, and other various commemorative items, so not all financial gloom. I for one am looking forward to 3 days of celebration,not much to ask out of 365, which will hopefully lift some peoples spirits. Certainly more than a quick nod to Parliament!

Absolutely rightly said, Jaberwok and Germansheperdsmum

Well said Jaberwok

Well said Jaberwok.
I expect the coronation will bring the tourist income that all big royal events attract, bglouis. Perish the thought that we should ever dispose of centuries of tradition and the accompanying pageantry for which the country is renowned in favour of some ‘quick flick’.

Mumbo Jumbo? Again why is it that only the Christian faith is derided and sneered at, while other faiths, and their traditions are respected, tolerated and of course never questioned or queried, quite rightly so too, but try being a Christian and,God forbid wear a symbol that advertises your faith, and you lay yourself wide open for ridicule. Burn a bible and no one cares, ,burn the Quran? prepare for religious wrath!