The consecrated oil for King's Coronation

Water in the font has been blessed.

Thank you for answering my question. I thought I had maybe mis-remembered what happened.

Prince Philips mother is buried in the Church of St Mary Magdalene on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem. She is buried there in acknowledgement by Israel of her bravery during WW11 towards hiding and helping persecuted Jews at great personal risk. Why is it that anything to do with the Christian faith is by some automatically ridiculed even sneered at, and yet with other faiths such traditions would, and are, taken seriously, respectfully, and reverently? I know about the significance of this holy oil from the last ccoronation and I was only 10. We were taught that sort of thing in School, as well as respect for it. As has been said people then were joyful and welcoming to our new Queen even though Britain was virtually bankrupt and heavily in debt to the US after WW11. Confectionery had only just come off ration (February) and yet no one complained about the cost in fact there was an enormous amount of celebration and optimism. People simply weren't so money oriented and more easily pleased.

AskAlice

Genuine question, not intended to cause offence. When my babies were baptised oil wasn't used, nor was it used at my GCs christenings. The cross was made on their foreheads with water from the font - is it different with other Christian religions? We are C of E.

I didn't want to ask either.

Our children, GC, GGC were baptised with water.

Apparently oil is used to bless an adult or infant before the baptism service AskAlice but like you, I've never come across this in the C of E.

Genuine question, not intended to cause offence. When my babies were baptised oil wasn't used, nor was it used at my GCs christenings. The cross was made on their foreheads with water from the font - is it different with other Christian religions? We are C of E.

My parents either bought or were given a souvenir hardback book about the coronation in 1953. I recall a photograph of the late queen wearing a plain white dress with a pleated skirt and a caption referring to the anointing. In all the other photographs she was wearing a richly decorated gown. It never occurred to me that she changed from one to the other actually in the abbey, albeit behind a screen.

You can be progressive and respectful of tradition Yammy; the two aren't mutually exclusive.

Humanism is not about ridiculing peoples beliefs Anniebach and GSM..
I said for those who believe in such stuff it can be very meaningful.

I think many are probably humanist in their beliefs but do not label themselves as such.

Humanists trust the scientific method when it comes to understanding how the universe works and reject the idea of the supernatural. We believe this is the only life we have and it is important to place human welfare and happiness at the centre of ethical decision making.

I understand that some find meaning and comfort in supernatural beliefs to help them navigate life. I don’t.

What a load of expense Lidl oil never mind Waitrose would have done, whose to know? I thought this was meant to be a progressive Charles not a" Divine right of Kings one".

Believer or not, unless the rules have changed since 1953 you won't get to see the consecration unless you happen to be directly descended in the male line from somebody who once did a big favour for the monarch of the moment.

Same principle applies to Easter (eggs, bunnies)
Christmas, Birthdays ( trees ,baubles , pressies if you are very good )

Humanists don’t give a stuff about ridiculing peoples beliefs, that’s being a humanist ?

Each to their own paddyann.

It’s sad when people ridicule the beliefs of others.

Anybody who thinks Charlie is one of "the good thIngs in the UK" needs to give their heads a wobble, the mans is every bit as crooked as the government is ,The only difference is he thinks he's entitled to take bags full of cash , or avoid taxes and expect the "country" to pay tens of millions for a coronation
.Come to think about it the Tory government probably believe they are too.
All tarred with the same brush and millions of people following on blindly taking all the coronation nonense in like soup .

Dear me, it’s 2023, you’d never think we’d gone through the enlightenment.

I suppose for those who believe in such stuff it can be very meaningful. As a humanist I think it appears superstitious and I don’t believe the king is mandated by god.

BBC News - Sacred coronation oil will be animal-cruelty free
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64836101

Symbolism and tradition. Hope it lifts our mood and helps us appreciate the good things about UK. 'Fraid this is from Daily Mail but it does give a good bit of background. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11818393/The-sacred-oil-anoint-Charles-King-Monarch-breaks-Coronation-Day-tradition.html

I have vicar friends who are unmoved by the whole consecrated oil thing.

It’s part of the tradition of this country, and long should it remain.
I really don’t imagine it’s costing anything much, let alone taking food from those in need.

It’s interesting. I suspect postwar Britain was much poorer than today, but I don’t remember anyone saying the Coronation was a waste of money, or indeed talking about the cost at all. People just weren’t so money-minded then.

Calendargirl

The same ritual would be done for the Queen’s coronation.

You just wouldn’t hear about it so much 70 years ago.

I knew about it. I was 13 at the time.

For many believers it isn't hocus pocus Luckygirl, that's the point.

You can be a believer without subscribing to this sort of hocus pocus.

I wonder how much this stuff is costing the taxpayers at a time when the cost of living defeats some poor families.