Marijuana, Cannabis etc (plus Bonus Harry)

My son had a girlfriend from hell and after the relationship ended her house burned down. We were discussing it with my son and he wondered whether something had gone wrong when she was on Ket (ketamine). We were astonished and I asked him if he knew she took it when they were together and if he had seen a future with her if she was so daft. He said that although he can't see why anybody would risk themselves, he's find it incredibly difficult to find a girlfriend if he ruled them out based on recreational drugs. I think that is very sad.
My older son was on a music performance course and his lecturers smoked cannabis quite openly in front of the students when they were performing. We were horrified and really relieved when my son decided against performing as a career and found a wife who was strictly anti-drugs! He has since talked about his occasional cannabis use and it surprised me because I watched him like a hawk. It just goes to show you just can't tell.

It depends on whether your relationship with your children is open and casual enough for them to mention their own drug use/non drug use, in passing, when talking about some aspect of drug use more generally.

The areas of their children's lives parents may not know about, will vary from family to family. For some drug use will be off bounds, in others it won't. Children of vegans, probably would not admit that they meat, but might be willing to talk about drug usage.

henetha

I take co-codamol. I'd be astonished if it contains cannabis. It's paracetamol and codeine isn't it.

your liver converts codeine into morphine
there are so many posts on this thread since I last posted that i don;t know why you've asked

Of course there will be private areas of their lives - their sex lives for instance. I know my son well enough to know that he didn’t experiment with drugs. I have always known his views on those who do.

We all think that GSM . Its not about how good a relationship you have. It's actually really important for maturity and development as an adult that there are areas of life that your parents dont necessarily know about.

Perhaps it depends to a large extent on how well you know your children.

I am not sure if you would always really know if your children had taken drugs or not. Children (when grown) do need areas of life that their parents dont know about.

No, co-codamol does not contain cannabis! Cannabis for medicinal use is very difficult to obtain and cannot be accessed without jumping through several hoops! Many years ago Dr Colis Browne was a medicine that calmed tummy upsets, it was brilliant ,and worked a treat,nowadays it's virtually innaffective, if indeed you can still get it, why?because years ago it contained a small amount of opium!! these days? of course it doesn't!

karmalady

Germanshepherdsmum

‘Most of us’ Hetty? I was a teenager in the 60s in a city where a lot of drugs were in circulation but I have never touched non-prescription drugs.

nor me nor my friends, no need to, I was happy as I was

I don't know any who've used drugs - not us, our children.

I don't think drug use was widespread 'back then' - or perhaps just not in my circle of rule followers.

I take co-codamol. I'd be astonished if it contains cannabis. It's paracetamol and codeine isn't it.

I used to be just exasperated at Harry and his outpourings. But now I am quite angry. He thinks he is knowledgeable about how to help everybody's mental health. But he is yet another "media personality" spouting forth about things he has never studied properly, he is not trained in and thinks his own personal journey is relevant to anyone else

What he has suggested re the drugs is so irresponsible it beggars belief.

(I too am a 60's teenager and never took, or wanted to, take any kind of drug. I like my brain the way it is).

I too came from a reasonably affluent background,(1960's) but have never touched non prescription drugs,(we did like a drink though, but not smoking) none of my friends did, nor have my children or grandchildren , they don't touch alcohol or smoke. Harry's confession is the height of irresponsibility. Why can't he just keep this sort of thing private or keep quiet altogether? Or, maybe use his privileged,wealthy position to actually help drug addiction and perhaps do some good in this world instead of endless whining. Mind you, probably no money in it!!!

Another 60s chick. I too have never tried recreational drugs.

I did once, when I was 18, before an exam, to enable me to extend the hours i spent revising , buy some caffeine tablets over the counter in Boots and took the maximum recommended dose and it left me feeling paranoid and suicidal for 12 hours and unable to sleep for three days. I have never been tempted to try any unlicensed drug since nor to treat OTC medications with anything less than caution and never exceed the recommended dose.

Like Karmalady, neither did my friends use drugs. I did work with someone who took recreational pills. He was no recommendation for the habit.

Likewise, I know both of my DC tried cannabis - once, and didn't enjoy the experience. They have never taken anything else.

I've never touched "recreational drugs" - in fact, I don't like taking any drugs, and my GP says I am his only patient who keeps refusing what he prescribes.

No. I have a cousin with huge mental health issues after inhaling; it has wrecked his life. My brother died after a drugs overdose and his mental health problems worsened with inhaling. I can't scream No loud enough.

I've never touched or come near drugs, I didn't think that was unusual. My AC seem to have done the same.

No, ExDancer, co-codamol is a mixture of paracetamol and codeine, in the proportions 8 mg codeine to 500 of paracetamol, or 30 mg to 500.

Germanshepherdsmum

‘Most of us’ Hetty? I was a teenager in the 60s in a city where a lot of drugs were in circulation but I have never touched non-prescription drugs.

nor me nor my friends, no need to, I was happy as I was

Meghan is very quiet. I wonder if her dream life as a princess has lost its appeal. I would imagine H is difficult to live with, he seems self centred and to think of no-one but himself ....... maybe he's a kinder, more generous and different person at home?

MOnica, tickingbird and karmalady 👍

When he had a proper job in the Army he was totally different.

I am prescribed liquid morphine - does that count? I must say it 'does what it says on the tin' for pain. I have cut down and am trying to cut it out altogether, though there's nothing like it for pain relief but I haven't noticed any mood enhancing side effects. What a shame.
I was never tempted in my teens (1950s)
I believe co-codamol is made from cannabis.

I agree, karmalady. I've thought for ages that Harry should just get a job. Then he could have some pride in supporting his family himself.

‘Most of us’ Hetty? I was a teenager in the 60s in a city where a lot of drugs were in circulation but I have never touched non-prescription drugs.

H should really get himself an outdoor manual labouring job. Being outdoors on a daily basis would do wonders for his mental health and might just create a little bit of empathy for those who have no choice but to work until their backs and joints ache. I suggest landscaping, working for somone, which involves a lot of weeding and grass cutting