Virtue Signalling

Fleurpepper, I agree and I don’t think practical support for a cause, including spreading the word, is virtue signalling, but just paying lip-service (in the right places and in order to make a certain impression) is.

That's sad Callistemon

Any situation where it leads to more support is worthy

At least with unread books the author can pay bills and write more for people who do enjoy them I suppose

As someone who has been accused of "virtue signalling" on gransnet for lighting a blooming candle for people who lost lives on the special day for doing so ....

I got accused of virtue signalling years ago when I said I was knitting blankets for Syrian refugees - all I was trying to do was raise awareness in case other knitters wanted to do the same.

Once bitten twice shy.

Maddyone, virtue signalling is enthusiastically clapping Benedict Cumberbatch for ranting during a production of Hamlet, while having no intention whatever of actually doing anything about the asylum seekers.

Hmm

As someone who has been accused of "virtue signalling" on gransnet for lighting a blooming candle for people who lost lives on the special day for doing so....

It only annoys me when it's an appearance thing and not sincere.

By all means please share your links to charities you support because yay the more support the better!

Tell me about those special days, those marches you attend, those occasions to remember someone or something! I will join you and light that sometimes controversial candle!

Please don't just show me your immaculate bookcase of unread books or a picture of you handing 50p to homeless person for Internet likes as if ut is a great and wonderful occasion.

PS my bookcase does not contain a book that hasn't been read at least 3 times and is extremely tatty at this point. If it's not worth reading again it isn't worth keeping.

If you are raising money for a 'cause' close to your heart, surely you want to advertise it as far and wide as you can, to raise as much money as possible, doesn't that make sense. So is having an Oxfam coffee morning, or selling cakes at the local fair for equipment for the local children, gathering clothes and medical equipment for people in Ukraine or Turkey, collecting books for children at a school in Africa, having a concert or other venue to raise money for a local or far-away club... all virtue signalling.

What about campaigning for a Party or groupyou think will make a real difference, be it for the NHS, or the environment, or the country, or the third world, or ... or ... or...

for hope, for a better future for our GCs, to preserve our countryside, or fight against animal cruelty, or a fairer deal for those who are born with all sorts of handicap, be they physical, or social, or ...

Virtue signaling. I for one am very glad that some people are prepared to get off their backside to fight for a better world. And to tell me about it so I can join them if I can. Because if they don't share- and try to get people together, then we can all be fighting our little fights in our little world - not sure that will achieve much.

“the Scottish woman (a health adviser?) Who always had a small table with a vase of flowers behind her.”

Linda somebody. The colour of her flowers often echoed her blouse of jumper.

And why did that nice Chris chap have to sit in front of his radio thingy when he spent most of his time doing science and only a little doing radio?

And that minister Grant ? The transport chap - he definitely tried to hard, with his artfully arranged red box.

That’d when it all started.,..

There is very good and wallpaper that looks just like a wall full of books, so if you face time you can appear very well read🙂
Personally, if people want to spend their money on books, art, gardening etc I don’t mind and are entitled to spend it as they see fit. What I do think a bit irritating in life are those people that can eat everything and don’t a pound on. Also those with husbands they constantly moan about, sometimes over the most trivial things, I think you should be so lucky,

Didn't a woman have a vibrator on her bookshelf whilst being interviewed on zoom?

Sorry - 1900s 😂

I should read more.

But did you have an outside toilet?
Yes.

But also books.

I still get a feeling of unease when I remember the books which were given to my father in the early 19th century and which I sent to Oxfam when we moved.

Riverwalk

eazybee

People who have walls / huge bookshelves full of books but never read. A class signifier.

This sort of silly remark.
People who have walls full of books buy them because they like books and they keep them on shelves because it as an ideal way to store them.
Nothing to do with class.

Gaga can answer for herself but I got the impression that she could be referring to since Covid and interviewees/politicians/ commentators working from home rather than being in the TV studio you often see carefully curated bookshelves in the background!

Oh yes, they all had acres of books perfectly placed behind them.

The one I liked was the Scottish woman (a health adviser?) Who always had a small table with a vase of flowers behind her. Sorty, can't remember her name.
Simple and classy.

Also the ones whose small children interrupted the serious messages when the parent was addressing the nation. 😀

Books, I am hopeless at getting rid of books and some were inherited so yes, we have shelves (and boxes) of books. 😇

But did you have an outside toilet?
Yes.

Marydoll

MawtheMerrier

“Humble bragging”
Of the “we were so poor….” variety!

Mea culpa......... .

Well we were!

But did you have an outside toilet?

MawtheMerrier

^What is a 'caché' Sarah75. Virtue signalling is the opposite no, not hidden at all^

Very quick to pick up on somebody else’s French .

Indeed! I have explained that I wrote cachet, but it was autocorrected - but no acknowledgement of that……

What is a 'caché' Sarah75. Virtue signalling is the opposite no, not hidden at all

Very quick to pick up on somebody else’s French .

MawtheMerrier

“Humble bragging”
Of the “we were so poor….” variety!

Mea culpa......... .

Well we were!

maddyone

Of course Maw Prince Harry is one person who has told us to take fewer flights and then uses private jets himself, but I certainly wasn’t only thinking of him. Emma Thomson springs to mind, along with Gary Linekar. Also along with Lily Allen and Benedict Cumberbatch. Some of these have been guilty of telling us all to take an asylum seeker from Calais into our own modest homes, whilst doing nothing of the sort themselves (in their large/several houses) or housing someone for a few weeks before they move on. It’s virtue signalling at its worst, especially if you’ve paid good money to watch Hamlet or some such play, and Benedict Cumberbatch is starring in it, and he suddenly spoils the performance by giving a long rant to the audience about how they all should be doing something about the asylum seekers in Calais.

Couldn’t agree more!
Emma Thompson particularly annoys me (can’t think why. Maybe sour grapes, Greg Wise is rather good looking! )

OurKid1

MawtheMerrier

“Humble bragging”
Of the “we were so poor….” variety!

My brother and I were (lightheartedly) talking about this at the weekend and trying to outdo each other. The best was voted to be "we were so poor, that our dad used to suck a Polo mint and we sat around him warming our hands." Yes, I know poverty is a thing and is not really a subject for joking, but still ...

I enjoyed this OurKid1.

I’m pleased with the term ‘virtue signalling’ has arrived - it gives me the terminology to briefly explain why some overly pompous or smug type irritates me.

Rosie51

Fleurpepper What is a 'caché' Sarah75. I imagine Sarah meant cachet, as that fits with what she said. Might well be autocorrect knowing best as usual.

cachet
/ˈkaʃeɪ/
noun
noun: cachet; plural noun: cachets
1.
the state of being respected or admired; prestige.
"no other shipping company had quite the cachet of Cunard"

Thank you, Rosie. I wrote cachet, but, as you say, it was autocorrected……..

Theexwife

In my opinion, the only reason to announce that you give money to charity, donate to a food bank or help others is virtue signalling. Why would you need others to know?

On principle, you should really do it because you are a kind person, don't need a pat on the back and keep it to yourself.
Sometimes I think people do it to try and encourage others to do the same.
Others are sounding you out to see if you are in agreement with them and follow suit or they are doing the right thing.
Or to be cynical they are just letting you know they are waiting for their hallos in the post.
You can usually tell by their personality and actions in other matters.

Fleurpepper What is a 'caché' Sarah75. I imagine Sarah meant cachet, as that fits with what she said. Might well be autocorrect knowing best as usual.

cachet
/ˈkaʃeɪ/
noun
noun: cachet; plural noun: cachets
1.
the state of being respected or admired; prestige.
"no other shipping company had quite the cachet of Cunard"

Wyllow3

Theexwife

In my opinion, the only reason to announce that you give money to charity, donate to a food bank or help others is virtue signalling. Why would you need others to know?

Well, if done in the right way, and it crops up in conversation, encouraging them?

Well yes, as per Greta as an example. What woule be the point of her saying what she is saying hiding in her bedroom or the back-garden?

What is a 'caché' Sarah75. Virtue signalling is the opposite no, not hidden at all.

ExperiencedNotOld

Different but sort of the same.
People that move into a country village, swop their car for a 4x4, start wearing country style clothes (that never get dirty) always from expensive brands, buy a couple of labs or spaniels and then can’t understand why real county folk find them so funny.

I just had to answer this one. We have a chap who is a real wag in our country village with at times a nasty sense of humour.
A few years ago a couple bought the largest house and a 4 by 4 as big as a minibus they turned up at a coffee morning as if they were just about to join the shoot at Sandringham. He said in a loud voice"Two of the models out of John Norrises Window", we all had to bite our lips John Norris is the local shop for country wear and fishing tackle. The next coffee morning they were in jeans and jumpers like everyone else.

Theexwife

In my opinion, the only reason to announce that you give money to charity, donate to a food bank or help others is virtue signalling. Why would you need others to know?

Well, if done in the right way, and it crops up in conversation, encouraging them?

I have masses of books on bookshelves and just love them. Kindle's are not for me ..