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The SNP is in a ‘tremendous mess’ apparently.

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Urmstongran Mon 20-Mar-23 09:43:57

Since these two stepped down within weeks of one another the SNP seems to be imploding at a rate of knots.

What on Earth is going on? There is so much in-flighting.

Mollygo Thu 30-Mar-23 08:44:21

volver3

And I simply shortened Mollygo Fairest, once. Can't see the problem myself.

Exactly V3 (quick thinking about your previously undefined abbreviation). 🤣🤣
I did wonder if it had been a typo, but obviously not. Thanks for the clarification.
You can’t see the problem AND you use that sort of language AND you report.
Says it all about you really.
The SNP is in a tremendous mess. I wonder why.

volver3 Thu 30-Mar-23 08:09:20

Oh, so intentionally winding me up for effect, is it?

Wonder what GNHQ call posters who do that?

M0nica Thu 30-Mar-23 07:59:54

volver3 It is so easy to get a rise from you, it is impossible to resist.

multicolourswapshop Thu 30-Mar-23 07:56:33

That’s me bought my bunting to hang outside I really so proud of what the snp has done for me

volver3 Thu 30-Mar-23 05:37:25

And I simply shortened Mollygo Fairest, once. Can't see the problem myself.

Mollygo Wed 29-Mar-23 23:31:18

volver3

Decided that your previous nickname for me was as rude and despicable as everybody told you it was, have you?

No. I simply shortened Volver Dear. Your abbreviation for me didn’t surprise me. I don’t use that language, but you evidently do.

nanna8 Wed 29-Mar-23 23:24:48

Well I could imagine the different tribes. We all return to our beginnings in the end. You could separate off all the small islands,too and go back to warring tribal leaders.

volver3 Wed 29-Mar-23 23:24:34

Decided that your previous nickname for me was as rude and despicable as everybody told you it was, have you?

Mollygo Wed 29-Mar-23 23:18:32

So V3 (I do like a nice rhyme by the way), it seems what you want is to regard others as foreigners. I don’t see your problem.
Wales, Northern Ireland and England are already countries in their own right, so regard away.

Some, in each country feel as antagonistic as you appear to do some don’t. Happily, those I’ve met are less antagonistic, whatever their views are, which is a really good example of the friendliness of their country.

volver3 Wed 29-Mar-23 23:05:26

M0nica

No one ever said your were foreigners, Volver, any more than people from Yorkshire or Kent (for example) are.

We're from a different country. Kent's in England, as is Yorkshire.

Ergo...

HTH

Callistemon21 Wed 29-Mar-23 22:48:20

volver3

Aye, fine by me if you decide we're all foreigners. Seems I was right all along. Seems that we do just have our places in Westminster on sufferance.

No, you used that word.

M0nica Wed 29-Mar-23 22:29:36

No one ever said your were foreigners, Volver, any more than people from Yorkshire or Kent (for example) are.

Aveline Wed 29-Mar-23 21:49:12

Nobody in the UK is foreign to me- including Volver!

volver3 Wed 29-Mar-23 19:51:51

I long for the day...

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 29-Mar-23 19:50:34

I have never suggested you are a foreigner - rather the other way around. If you say the Westminster government is foreign then obviously you consider the English are foreigners.

volver3 Wed 29-Mar-23 19:44:02

Aye, fine by me if you decide we're all foreigners. Seems I was right all along. Seems that we do just have our places in Westminster on sufferance.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 29-Mar-23 19:41:58

Well volver, you said that the English government is foreign. You can’t have it all ways.

Mollygo Wed 29-Mar-23 19:13:49

Actually, with a few exceptions, (one of whom is Gordon Brown, others who will go unnamed in case they report me again,)
I find those from Scotland polite and friendly. As for being an emigrant or an immigrant, why?

volver3 Wed 29-Mar-23 18:55:49

How patronising.

Gordon Brown lives in the same region as I do. He was MP for that area. Not sure that counts as "emigrant". Is that how you think of us?

M0nica Wed 29-Mar-23 18:32:19

It used to be that there wasn't a port or engine room worldwide that wasn't run by a Scottish engineer.

Sir Robert McAlpine - founded Scotland now based in England
Kiers - founded and based in England
Balfour Beatty - founded and based England
Andrew Scott - founded and based in Wales

and those are just the ones listed in the top half dozen or so British engineering firms.

In a childhood spent partly in South East Asia, all the big trading houses in Hong Kong, Singapore and Kuala Lumpur. and the department store chains and major manufacturers had Scottish names.

As Samuel Johnson says 'The noblest prospect which a Scotchman ever sees, is the high road that leads him to England' Reported by James Boswell, himself an emmigrant Scot.

The last 2 Labour Prime Ministers were emmigrant Scots.

Mollygo Wed 29-Mar-23 18:30:23

Aveline

I could agree with you Volver but then we'd both be wrong! grin

🤣🤣🤣🤣
There’s no point any more? Awaits the silence.

Aveline Wed 29-Mar-23 18:07:01

I could agree with you Volver but then we'd both be wrong! grin

volver3 Wed 29-Mar-23 17:03:58

You do not convince, Aveline. I've posted time and again, showing why you are wrong, but you're just ignoring it. There's no point any more. People with actual powers of reason instead of prejudice in their hearts will get the point.

Aveline Wed 29-Mar-23 16:46:59

Do you mean the bridge that they eventually finished? That has to be closed when it ices up? Other bridges seem to manage...
I don't actually care about the bridge any more there is so much other evidence of incompetence in Scottish govt commissioning but I reckon you know that.

volver3 Wed 29-Mar-23 16:23:01

And the bridge?

The bridge you make things up about?

The bridge which is a peak example of how to do civil engineering projects?

The bridge that has met all of its objectives?

Why is it now that you don't have a good word for it? Could it possibly be because it was built during the time the SNP has been in power?

Pick something that actually went wrong, - you seem to think there's plenty. Some facts would be nice, to go with it. But if you decide to complain about something that actually went really, really well, I'll just have to think you depend on Murdo Fraser's tweets for your information and will parrot any old rubbish because you think its shows the SNP (and Scotland) in a bad light.

(I'm remarkably protective of that bridge...)