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The SNP is in a ‘tremendous mess’ apparently.

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Urmstongran Mon 20-Mar-23 09:43:57

Since these two stepped down within weeks of one another the SNP seems to be imploding at a rate of knots.

What on Earth is going on? There is so much in-flighting.

Aveline Wed 29-Mar-23 16:12:51

Scotland is not baaaaaad. The SNP government, however, certainly is!

Aveline Wed 29-Mar-23 16:11:23

Oh Volver!

volver3 Wed 29-Mar-23 16:04:17

It is just that they seem to prefer to practice their craft anywhere but Scotland.

Really?

Any evidence?

I see it more as a plan for world domination..... 😏

M0nica Wed 29-Mar-23 15:44:55

Never heard of 'Scotlsnd baaaad'

Scotland is meant to be a land of engineers and good business man. It is just that they seem to pefer to practice their craft anywhere but Scotland. No idea why.

Blossoming Wed 29-Mar-23 12:57:00

Aveline

Sorry Honoria remind me, is Crossrail in Scotland?

Apparently it’s in London Aveline. I’d never heard of it so I just Googled it.

volver3 Wed 29-Mar-23 11:59:15

Sorry to butt in LHD

The Scottish government is held to higher standards than anybody else.

Even when a PRINCE2 Practitioner (that's me wink) tells you that a project is a shining example of how project management should be done, even though it comes in well under budget and within target date, even though it has spectacularly met its objectives, all some people see is "Scotland baaaad".

If people keep talking down the good things, maybe I can understand where the "Scottish cringe" came from.

Aveline Wed 29-Mar-23 11:52:37

Sorry Honoria remind me, is Crossrail in Scotland?

LadyHonoriaDedlock Wed 29-Mar-23 11:08:45

Did Kate Forbes seriously expect the finance brief? After the vicious personal attacks during the campaign? Chickens coming home to roost.

But I agree, this all looks like a bit of a mess. I don't doubt that, despite the circumstantial nit-picking, Humza is a capable leader but he doesn't have the charisma of his predecessor. The post-referendum SNP has always been an uneasy alliance brought together to further the cause of independence but it's looking very fragile now.

LadyHonoriaDedlock Wed 29-Mar-23 11:03:05

Aveline, remind me how late and how far over budget Crossrail was?

Callistemon21 Wed 29-Mar-23 10:21:51

Aveline

It was a calculated insult. Of course she turned it down. Big mistake Useless. Better to have her in the tent etc

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer!

Visgir1 Wed 29-Mar-23 08:37:05

Aveline

It was a calculated insult. Of course she turned it down. Big mistake Useless. Better to have her in the tent etc

I agree better to have her in the tent.. Or is she postion herself, so when it implodes, she ready in the wings?

Fleurpepper Wed 29-Mar-23 08:35:23

Grammaretto

Apparently she (Kate) didn't want a high profile job in his (Humza's ) government.

Did her religious views get in the way?

nanna8 Wed 29-Mar-23 01:07:01

So is the SNP getting the extra ‘I’? SNIP.

Callistemon21 Tue 28-Mar-23 23:59:54

Grammaretto

Apparently she (Kate) didn't want a high profile job in his (Humza's ) government.

She was offered a job which was a demotion and turned it down.

This is all going swimmingly so far 😀

Aveline Tue 28-Mar-23 19:45:45

It was a calculated insult. Of course she turned it down. Big mistake Useless. Better to have her in the tent etc

Grammaretto Tue 28-Mar-23 19:24:27

Apparently she (Kate) didn't want a high profile job in his (Humza's ) government.

varian Tue 28-Mar-23 18:22:14

I think he has made a bad mistake by not offering Kate Forbes her old job in charge of Finance which she was thought to have done wel.

Instead he tried to demote her so she has refused to be part of his administration.

Not a good start.

M0nica Tue 28-Mar-23 18:17:45

Humza gets the leadership of the SNP with 52.1 % of the vote, 48.2% against .

The vote for Brexit was 51.9 for, 48.1% again.

So he got a good secure vote and we can be sure that there will be no arguing or disagreeing about the result after such a thumping victory. Who will be his Boris Johnson or Jacob Rees-Mogg, not to mention his Northern Ireland Protocol?

volver3 Tue 28-Mar-23 16:27:57

You don't know much about project management, do you Aveline?

volver3 Tue 28-Mar-23 16:27:01

I guess this independent report is just lies then.

www.infrastructure-intelligence.com/article/aug-2018/watchdog-says-queensferry-crossing-value-money-and-was-well-managed

I know you're a lost cause Aveline, but I will continue to challenge your -lies misinformation so that other readers get the right information.

Aveline Tue 28-Mar-23 16:22:07

Oh and while I remember here's a screenshot of the merest search re Queensferry crossing

Aveline Tue 28-Mar-23 16:16:15

Havers Volver you're obviously very selective in your reading. But you know that.
I'll leave you and your 'fiends'. I'm off to pray for poor Scotland. It needs it.

volver3 Tue 28-Mar-23 15:59:18

The Queensferry Crossing was opened before its target date but after its stretch date. It was also well within budget.

It's used in Project Management courses as an example of how projects should be run. And no, not by me.

The endless stream of misinformation is starting to resemble stalking Aveline.

Aveline Tue 28-Mar-23 15:04:31

Don't forget the delayed opening. Bit like the ferries. You SNP 'fiends' are all alike. Forgetful like Nicola - when it suits her

paddyann54 Tue 28-Mar-23 14:43:05

Aveline
Jan 12, 2022 · The Queensferry Crossing has been closed due to falling ice on 3 occasions since opening to traffic in September 2017, details are as follows: 10 February 2020 closed 18:05 reopened 12 February 2020 11:35 (41 hours 30 mins) 04 December 2020 closed 04:16 reopened 08:48 (4 hours 32 minutes) .I cant find figures for last year .
The Forth Road bridge however was closed many times more due to high winds.As was the Erskine bridge ,neither of which were built on the SNP's watch.
I do have friends who use the QC every day and according to them its been a life changer .I'm sure with all your anti SNP fiends you'll find someone who says its ruined their life because of those 3 that is THREE closures in two and a half YEARS !!