I just overheard...

As a retired teacher I can confirm children are taught these measures in Primary and Secondary. She may well have got a low grade GCSE in in maths. One reason why a decent grade is vital for every day jobs.

It's a bit more confusing than you think. I work with numbers and have to be accurate but my colleague is foreign and works with a different system and sometimes things get lost in translation!
I also would say K Gees iykwim

I can understand why she did not know. Weight was probably taught at primary school and referred to as grams and kilos so no need for an abbreviation and would have no knowledge of lbs.
Very few people buy loose items by weight and certainly not a 20year old.
I dare say that a 20-year-old knows a lot more about tech and things relevant to the younger people's world today than I do so I would not be critical going down the young people today route.

I clearly remember just after we went metric going to a hardware store, and asking for ten yards of garden hose. The shopkeeper said that they couldn't sell it in yards, as it was now all measured in metres. I gave the O.K. to go ahead, and was then asked if I wanted it in inch or half inch diameter. The shopkeeper seemed surprised when I then fell about laughing..

I see no reason why school children should learn about the antiquated imperial system of weights and measures, since the decimal system is almost universal though the US still clings to it. Having said that, I still think of myself in terms of stones and pounds.

I muddle along with a mixture but really prefer Imperial. I also think good for the girl to feel confident enough to ask the question.. Much better than making a mistake out of ignorance, this is the way she will become a success

I agree Hellogirl1.

JackyB

I think what may have confused the girl in CanadianGran's original post was the abbreviation "lb". She may not have known - or just recognised in that context - that it stood for pounds. It's not self-explanatory if you don't know.

Good point. It’s not self explanatory and faced with lbs and Oz a common abbreviation for Australia-who wouldn’t be confused.
I work in metric for most things, but my height is in imperial because the extra half inch is important to me.
In metric, that half can be expressed by any number e.g. .37 or .91cm depending on the number of inches and I don’t have time to multiply by 30.48 every time.

We need to teach children how to convert one to the other.
Whilst most or all European countries and others around the world use Metric, Americans still use Imperial.
If children are going into higher education they will come across the American Imperial measurements. I know from my own family's experiences.

I think what may have confused the girl in CanadianGran's original post was the abbreviation "lb". She may not have known - or just recognised in that context - that it stood for pounds. It's not self-explanatory if you don't know.

Cups are so easy! I have a set of little matryoshka dolls that measure different cup sizes and use them a lot. Converting from ounces to cups would be a faff, but it's the relative quantities that matter, not the actual amounts (as Hetty pointed out earlier).

Don't be too hard on the girl. She was probably just making sure that nobody was harmed by hazardous substances. She shouldn't have been left to deal with them without supervised training, really. At least she'll know now.

I like the variety. When I'm looking for something of a certain size, say a picture frame, I record the measurements in both inches and cm. Most measuring instruments do both too.

Recently I found Chinese garment sizing by height and body weight much more useful than the usual bust/waist/hip measurements most clothing sellers use. I don't care what units measurements are given in. I have a pocket calculator (phone) that can do instant conversions.

The young person in the OP story strikes me as not knowing what she was dealing with at all so, basically, very poorly educated and not curious enough to find out stuff for herself.

Although I m a lbs and ounces, feet and inches woman I think we need to go completely metric it’s because we can still work in the old style that it’s messy
When money was changed we went straight over and had to get used to it

If it changed completely overnight we would all be fine within a week it’s because those of us brought up and at school with imperial and because it’s still there we are happy to keep using it

Metric for me, although I can work in both. We learned metric at school in the sixties in science lessons, and it's logical. I weigh wool and myself in kilos and can work in either for cooking. It gets even more complicated when Imperial and US measurements have the same names but are different quantities, and as for measuring in cups... !

I agree that it is astonishing that an adult woman doesn't know there are imperial and metric measurements and they are different.

I also agree that it is extremely annoying to have two systems working side by side. When you buy something online where the size is important, and you have to compare several before buying, you often find some in metric and some in imperial. You have to measure your item and calculate the size yourself in order to compare the items.

I just wish we could use one system instead of this ridiculous sitting on the fence situation using both systems.

. I suppose it depends on whether you are making American pancakes or British ones 😉

Doodledog, I was wondering whether to use UK or US measuring cups to make pancakes - as they are different sizes.

My exasperated granddaughter said 'The whole recipe is in cups - so it doesn't matter, it's just ratios!' Having once taught Maths, I was suitably ashamed.

you don't need to understand any unit of weight to
buy from a delicatessen counter though, do you.
most people point to something and ask for 6 slices or $5 worth of the cheese.
as i've said before on here, but don't seem to be believed, most people are not foodies.
the posters on here are unusual, in that they do a lot of home cooking, so may think in terms of weight/volume measures of ingredients;
but most people do not. not nowadays.

Good on this lady for asking when she didn't know... that is an absolutely positive thing and we don't reach adulthood having retained the total of all knowledge imparted to us.

I did not get on well at school but I was an avid reader and developed a huge vocabulary which helped when I went back to education later. Many many times I have mispronounced words and been laughed at because our language has a ridiculous amount of words that do not conform to any phonetic rules.

We can all learn and do better...

I use both (and cups), and think mostly in imperial measures. I don't care what my weights say, but I can visualise 4oz of butter or 8oz of flour much better than a kilo or 500g.

I'm not promoting one system over the other, I was flabbergasted that a 20 yr old didn't know that there was a difference.

I wonder how she buys sliced ham in a deli.

Another vote for the imperial system.

A while ago a friend was telling me about her newborn granddaughter. The child's weight was given in kilos, I had no clue if she was healthy or not.

I can sew and cook in both systems but nearly always use imperial given the choice.

We are at a disadvantage in the UK with our different and sometimes parallel measures and weights.

My digital kitchen scales measure in oz and gms.

Clothes and shoe sizing can be confusing.

I wish we could make our minds up.

When I was still teaching, we had a section in the maths programme, which focused on both the imperial and metric systems of measuring weight.
Hopefully it taught pupils the difference.

In 1976 I was working in the finance dept of the local health board and responsible for paying the oil bills for the hospital heating.
The clerk of works ordered in gallons, but we were invoiced in litres.
To this day, I still remember that 1 gallon= 4•4596 litres.
Those 1/000s of a litre, were important, no rounding up or down.
Thank goodness for calculators.

As someone who still thinks in pounds and ounces, I vote to get rid of kilograms!