Soup throwing again

volver3

Stupid was it? After I-don't-know-how-many-days we're still talking about it.

Seems quite effective to me.

🤔

She's had death threats apparently. Allegedly. So she claims, although I do not have forensic evidence of that .

It's better to try to argue your case with someone than throw things at them.

Stupid was it? After I-don't-know-how-many-days we're still talking about it.

Seems quite effective to me.

It was a stupid thing to do anyway.

Heckling and arguing might have been better!

Namsnanny

volver3

Oh come on now.

I've seen this video but incidentally I can't find it again and you can't see it, but it proves EVERYTHING I've said so obviously I'm right.

There's no compulsion to prove anything on GN, its a chat site. But if you believe in the comments about blood and soup, and you want us to believe it too, well need some proof.

Here she is being manhandled off the podium by security guards, this is called video evidence.

Second video down, about 20s in.

www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/posie-parker-juice-thower-eli-rubashkyn-en-route-for-new-york-after-arrest-claim/OBCY2CCNPJAULNQOHSQVCXX6Y4/

Liar liar pants on fire. I seem to remember children chanting that around the playground at school.
Scientist anyone?

This is the best I can do to satisfy your forensic search for the truth.
Maybe you should give up, as with most things in life, the answer lies within ourselves.

Aye, indeed. The best you can do.

An undated, untimed still from a video that still none of us have seen.

Nope, sorry, doesn't work for this scientist. It does show the rather low standard of proof that some people seem happy to accept, though.

Glorianny

Possibly Eli fled the county because she is a Colombian refugee and is worried she will be returned to Colombia where being gay, trans or inter-sex is dangerous.

If she wasn't arrested or charged with anything then would there be any grounds for deporting her from New Zealand ?

Anyway, Australia would send her straight back to New Zealand if she had been charged with an offence.

Glorianny

I don't mind a bit of a chat.
I do mind when someone states something is a fact, especially when their source is twitter.
Namsnanny I always do a Google search for evidence and in this instance no combination of words produced the video you are writing about. It does seem a bit odd that someone would bother to make a speech and be filmed but not make sure the film had the widest distribution on social media.

There's a lot of fake news and information on twitter.

Someone mentioned moving goal posts up thread.

Glorianny

Possibly Eli fled the county because she is a Colombian refugee and is worried she will be returned to Colombia where being gay, trans or inter-sex is dangerous.

Possibly she left because shes wanted in connection with a criminal act.
Just a thought

Glorianny

Mollygo

Received this tweet.

Could you explain where this is from Mollygo NHS policy does not recommend surgery for under 18s. I suppose there may be some surgeons willing to do this privately. But it certainly isn't usual in most countries.
fra.europa.eu/en/publication/2017/mapping-minimum-age-requirements-concerning-rights-child-eu/access-sex-reassignment-surgery#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20Kingdom%20the,

www.dailywire.com/news/teen-suing-doctors-for-removing-breasts-at-age-13-putting-her-on-puberty-blockers-letter

The story is here.

Possibly Eli fled the county because she is a Colombian refugee and is worried she will be returned to Colombia where being gay, trans or inter-sex is dangerous.

Ah, I see now
Don't you understand the use of ^ ^ volver?

They don't seem to work when quoting someone else's post so perhaps that's why you were confused.

I didn't dispute the fact that they were pulled off the stage, which was to be expected under the circumstances, especially as they were resisting.
It was the right thing for a security guard to do as they could have had a knife or acid and the incident could have been worse.
They were not arrested and charged as you claimed (and retracted) but they fled the country.

volver3

Oh come on now.

I've seen this video but incidentally I can't find it again and you can't see it, but it proves EVERYTHING I've said so obviously I'm right.

There's no compulsion to prove anything on GN, its a chat site. But if you believe in the comments about blood and soup, and you want us to believe it too, well need some proof.

Here she is being manhandled off the podium by security guards, this is called video evidence.

Second video down, about 20s in.

www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/posie-parker-juice-thower-eli-rubashkyn-en-route-for-new-york-after-arrest-claim/OBCY2CCNPJAULNQOHSQVCXX6Y4/

Liar liar pants on fire. I seem to remember children chanting that around the playground at school.
Scientist anyone?

This is the best I can do to satisfy your forensic search for the truth.
Maybe you should give up, as with most things in life, the answer lies within ourselves.

Callistemon21

^But then I don't, expect somebody who was on the other side of the world at the time to make posts suggesting she wasn't dragged off.^

If they'd gone quietly they wouldn't have been "dragged"

That wouldn't have been so dramatic, though, and there's be no reason to complain about the security guards.
🙂

There go those goalposts...

🤣

Glorianny

I don't mind a bit of a chat.
I do mind when someone states something is a fact, especially when their source is twitter.
Namsnanny I always do a Google search for evidence and in this instance no combination of words produced the video you are writing about. It does seem a bit odd that someone would bother to make a speech and be filmed but not make sure the film had the widest distribution on social media.

There's a lot of fake news and information on twitter.

I don't mind people quoting Twitter if there is a link or if we can see an original video. Then readers can make their own minds up. I do think people are quick to believe things that reinforce their own prejudices though, and don't necessarily apply critical thought to things, so I'm reluctant to believe anything without a provenance.

Mollygo

There's a lot of fake news and information on social media.

Like me being accused of moving goalposts.

It's not an evidence-based statement.

But that doesn't matter
There's no compulsion to prove anything on GN, its a chat site.

😂😂😂

Is there an echo in here?

There's a lot of fake news and information on social media.

I don't mind a bit of a chat.
I do mind when someone states something is a fact, especially when their source is twitter.
Namsnanny I always do a Google search for evidence and in this instance no combination of words produced the video you are writing about. It does seem a bit odd that someone would bother to make a speech and be filmed but not make sure the film had the widest distribution on social media.

There's a lot of fake news and information on twitter.

Actually, thank goodness nobody is checking my spelling..... 🤪

volver3

Do you play football Callistemon? Becuase you should think abut it.

You're really good at moving the goalposts.

Thank goodness you're not a referee.

I haven't moved the goalposts.

.

They are firmly in place.

Do you play football Callistemon? Becuase you should think abut it.

You're really good at moving the goalposts.

But then I don't, expect somebody who was on the other side of the world at the time to make posts suggesting she wasn't dragged off.

If they'd gone quietly they wouldn't have been "dragged"

That wouldn't have been so dramatic, though, and there's be no reason to complain about the security guards.
🙂

LiverLover

^A thread being in Chat doesn't mean it can just be fantasy, sorry. Chat isn't a get out of jail free card for made up stuff.^

You mean like saying someone was arrested when they weren't?

Well in those circumstances I'd expect the person who made the mistake to admit it instead of wittering on and digging themselves an even bigger hole.

volver3 Thu 30-Mar-23 09:24:57
Yeah I was wrong about the arrest. Mea culpa.

Callistemon21

What did you expect the security guards to do? They could have had a knife or acid.
They were resisting being removed from the podium so how were the security meant to remove them?

Drag her off, what else?

But then I don't, expect somebody who was on the other side of the world at the time to make posts suggesting she wasn't dragged off.