Would student services mention my grandson was expelled?

Lots of people start uni twice. Wrong course or fail to settle. Your grandson can say if asked Uni A didn't work out so I went to Uni B the following year.

What a big fuss about nothing! If he doesn't have a criminal conviction, I doubt anyone would bother to give a bad reference. Students take time off, gap years, start the same year again - and even change courses or unis all the time.

Of course, nobody should lie on an application - but why mention being expelled? That's just too much information!

But if he did the first year at A, then his second and third years at B there will be no gaps.

This seems to me to be a storm in a teacup, so I’m out .

I wish him luck, whatever happens.

Unexplained gaps in a CV usually trigger an investigation when applying for jobs

If he lies about it and then gets the job but later gets found out then in most workplaces lying on your application is automatically gross misconduct and a sackable offence

I don’t think the OP is interested in how it will look if the employer finds out about the first university. If the grandson doesn’t mention it there is very little chance that they will find out, so there is no question of red flags or dishonesty or anything else.

All he needs to do is say that in 2020 he got a first from the University of Wherever, and leave it at that, which is what I would do, unless he has been explicitly asked to account for every year of his life, which I think is unusual?

If that is the case, and the potential employer has, indeed asked for a blow by blow account of every year, then the game is up. The grandson could come clean at this point and speak to HR, pointing out that he overcame the problems he had in his youth to go on to do very well. Or he could just give the address of the student service department, and hope that they just give the dates that he was there. Volunteering the information that he left under a cloud seems to me foolish at the application stage. If he really wanted to he could volunteer the information after accepting an offer of employment.

Why would the employers ask for this information? Is there a gap in his CV, or did he, as I have assumed, pick up his studies at university B where he left off at A? People transfer courses all the time anyway - for all sorts of reasons. Homesickness, family problems, illness for example. They take a year out for similar reasons too. Life happens whilst people are studying. I can see no reason why it matters that he started his studies at one institution and completed at another, or why it would be dishonest to keep such information to himself. I would never recommend lying on a CV or at an interview, but being selective about what he discloses seems to me to be common sense.

What does your grandson think, OP?

It doesn’t matter whether student services do or not. It’s a red flag that he spent two years at one Uni and never mentioned it. I went to two unis, but I went to one for six weeks and then started at the other two months later. I don’t mention it because I literally dropped out realising it wasn’t for me, and I wasn’t even there for two months. No exams or coursework etc. But not mentioning going somewhere for two years is significant and looks dishonest. It will be a concern for most graduate employers, as they are usually pretty switched on and have a huge choice of applicants these days.

In future I’d encourage him to disclose both unis because it’s less risky to have an open conversation than to omit it completely.

worriedgrandma

can someone just answer my question...will student services tell his potential new job about his expulsion?

No-one can give you a definitive answer on that apart from student service at that particular university. We all understand that you are concerned and want your grandson to do well - but he is an adult now and has to take responsibility for his own actions. Take a step back and let him get on with it.

Precis.

worriedgrandma

can someone just answer my question...will student services tell his potential new job about his expulsion?

I have answered your question more than once, possibly on the other thread.

In precise, the answer is probably not, but it depends on who is asked and how the question is put.

What are the policies on the company and the university?

I don't think anybody can answer this for you

You can always go to a lawyer - please don't

Let the bird fly

Nobody can answer that except Student Services. How do you think we can do so? He and you seem utterly determined to try to keep this matter under wraps despite the fact that others will know about it and he will live in fear of his secret being exposed. If he is determined to try to keep this ‘secret’ and deceive his prospective employer, then as someone said before, he doesn’t sound trustworthy.

can someone just answer my question...will student services tell his potential new job about his expulsion?

I understand why this is so important to you but please don’t encourage him to deceive.
Are you certain this is a good career choice for him? He will be under stress and drugs will be available. See my comments above.

I would keep in mind that your worry won't improve or address any concerns your gc and employer may have

You may even it worse for your gc as he has to worry about the background check and your anxiety

He is an adult - helicopering is unhealthy

Hithere

I don't understand the worry - this is blown out of proportion and none of OP's business

There is no ideal employee with a clean slate

Many deal with less than amicabke divorces, have been arrested, gone to jail, has untreated mental health issues, big gaps in work employment, having been fired, laid off, etc

What a teenager did is honestly blip in the radar if the person has shown he/she has changed

Grandma talking to gc about integrity is a joke.

Op needs to step back and wonder why she is so unhealthy invested in this.

i am invested in this bc thats my only grandsons fate

Jaxjacky

I think the poster might be the Grandson actually..just a thought.

he and i v. close
i raised him after his mum died
i want him to do well

So he is a new hire?

Sorry it is not clear to me

Usually background checks are done before an offer is extended

I think the poster might be the Grandson actually..just a thought.

its a background screening check all empoyees have to do

Presumably an unexplained gap on the cv.

Why fund manager wants to do a gap analysis is more worrisome - what happened that trigger this?

I don't understand the worry - this is blown out of proportion and none of OP's business

There is no ideal employee with a clean slate

Many deal with less than amicabke divorces, have been arrested, gone to jail, has untreated mental health issues, big gaps in work employment, having been fired, laid off, etc

What a teenager did is honestly blip in the radar if the person has shown he/she has changed

Grandma talking to gc about integrity is a joke.

Op needs to step back and wonder why she is so unhealthy invested in this.

They vet everyone. Gaps in education or employment have to be accounted for and yes, it does raise alarm bells.
It is indeed his problem to sort out. I hope he does it with integrity. You may need to explain the importance of that word to him.

Because it raises alarm bells.
No one would leave one university to go to another unless they had a very good reason.
It just doesn’t happen.

Anyway, just let it drop.
It’s his problem

the company employs 100s of new grads each year...why would they ask him why he left uni 1 unless someone tips the employer off