The Daily Mail

I'm just guessing, as I'm not a regular reader of The Guardian or The Daily Mail (although I do look at both online from time to time and very much appreciate the free access).

However I do suspect that fact-checkers would find many more suspect reports in The Daily Mail than in The Guardian.

Try looking at Wikipaedia.

Compared with the fact-lite left wing drumbeat of the Guardian and BBC,

I recommend everyone reads widely, checks facts and sources and subjects their reading to clear, reasoned thought.

I'm afraid that I'm finding it really difficult to reconcile these two statements in Lilyflower's post..

It is good *Grandma70s".

It is always good to read a broad range of the media - covering right and left and not forgetting where most sensible people are - in the middle.

Most of my family and friends read The Guardian. I read parts of a selection of papers online, but I admit the Daily Mail is low on my list. I think only reading one paper is too limiting. Certainly I can often predict what my Guardian-reading friends are going to think and say. That’s not good.

That's what posters are doing volver.

So, in case anybody missed the inoffensive bit.

Read what you like.

Nobody's stopping you.

Own it, though.

I agree with you Littleannie and Primrose I don't know why those who don't ever read the DM care so much about those who do.

Oh Dear.

Touchy, touchy.

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Littleannie

Surely enough is enough. I read and enjoy the Mail. It's my choice. I wouldn't dream of criticising what other people choose to read.
And no, I am not an idiot. I consider myself to be well educated. I held a senior post in the Civil Service until retirement. I am now a freelance crossword compiler, having had over 600 puzzles published.

Completely agree Littleannie! I wouldn’t dream of telling anybody on here what to read. It’s their business. It’s just another form of snobbery. Like people who look down their noses at those who watch Coronation Street. It’s just light entertainment and millions have loved it for decades and that’s why actors like Ian McKellan, Maureen Lipman, Timothy West, Nigel Havers, Patricia Routledge and many more, all jumped at the chance to be in it. It has also set several young actors on the path to greater things - Sarah Lancashire, Suranne Jones, Joanne Froggatt etc.

Loving your current job! One of the best days I ever spent was on a one day course about crossword solving, anagrams, cryptic clues etc. It was brilliant.

Like you, I am well educated and have worked in education for most of that but also in advertising, managerial and have filled in with fun things like composing greetings for birthday cards, exam marking, running our own holiday lets, invigilating and running a craft group.

But hey, as I sometimes read the DM, I am apparently doomed! 🤣

We read The Times in paper form every day. Surprisingly it is not far right, I wouldn't read it if it was . Gave up on The Guardian when it got ridiculous , would not read the Telegraph or The Mail however I do find that the I is very good.

I don't do any of those things.

Maybe because being an "expert" in them means I know not to do them?

(actually my diet could be better and I like Race Across the World...)

SueEH

I buy it the Saturday Mail for my dad and make sure that I say that loudly to anyone within earshot. He reads it then quotes things back to me as gospel. It’s mostly drivel.

I always laugh when people announce to anyone within earshot that they never:

Watch TV soaps
Ditto Daytime telly and reality TV
Do the Lottery
Eat junk food
and most sinful of all…Read the Daily Mail!
😮😮😮

Curiously though they are often experts on the subjects. 😂

volver3

nanna8

More and more I would love to read the thing. If it rouses that much anger it is doing what newspapers do, isn’t it ? I am sure they would’ve hated people to be lukewarm or neutral about it. Success in my book.

It's online nanna8.

Worth a look

Today's headline seems to be about nail polish that will make you go blind, and a discussion about whether Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey are really brothers.

Important stuff.

The Harrelson/McConaughey story was an item on breakfast news.

nanna8

More and more I would love to read the thing. If it rouses that much anger it is doing what newspapers do, isn’t it ? I am sure they would’ve hated people to be lukewarm or neutral about it. Success in my book.

It's online nanna8.

Worth a look

Today's headline seems to be about nail polish that will make you go blind, and a discussion about whether Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey are really brothers.

Important stuff.

Littleannie

Surely enough is enough. I read and enjoy the Mail. It's my choice. I wouldn't dream of criticising what other people choose to read.
And no, I am not an idiot. I consider myself to be well educated. I held a senior post in the Civil Service until retirement. I am now a freelance crossword compiler, having had over 600 puzzles published.

I don’t understand why well educated people read it Littleannie, when the quality of journalism is well known as unreliable and it frequently tells lies. It has to be terrible to be badged by Microsoft. If people want to read more reliable right wing press they are better served by the Times.

www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jan/23/dont-trust-daily-mail-website-microsoft-browser-warns-users

Everything seems more downmarket now Callistemon.
I remember in the 90s The Express was a really good paper, I can’t remember why / how it happened, but around ‘98 it suddenly went absolutely dreadful

A right-wing friend agreed with me that the DM played on outrage in people, but said it batted for the right side (she was a Tory activist) so excused it!

I do buy the Daily Mail on a Saturday for the T.V. listings, but I am considering giving it up as most of my television watching now comes from the streaming services

We're oddities, maytime 😁
I like Monty Don's page too 😲

I remember that we had the Daily Mirror delivered when I was a child and it did seem different in those days, it's more downmarket now. Then it was the newspaper of ordinary Labour supporters.

More and more I would love to read the thing. If it rouses that much anger it is doing what newspapers do, isn’t it ? I am sure they would’ve hated people to be lukewarm or neutral about it. Success in my book.

Could you point out where I have insulted you please?

No need for insults volver and Fleurpepper. I haven't insulted you.

Yes, either one, or the other.

So we have people on here saying that the DM is racist, fascist, that it makes things up and it has been anti-immigrant forever, basically.

And we still get people coming on and saying "well I like it and I'm not stupid."

I just leave that there.

Surely enough is enough. I read and enjoy the Mail. It's my choice. I wouldn't dream of criticising what other people choose to read.
And no, I am not an idiot. I consider myself to be well educated. I held a senior post in the Civil Service until retirement. I am now a freelance crossword compiler, having had over 600 puzzles published.