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Emergency warning on Sunday

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watermeadow Thu 20-Apr-23 17:48:50

I hope you all know that you can opt out of hearing this on your mobile phones.
Go to Settings then Notifications, find Emergency warning and turn it off.

Maremia Sat 22-Apr-23 18:08:15

So, they send us a warning signal about imminent danger. (I know this is just a practice) Then what? Is there a follow up of advice? How does panicking the populace help in an emergency? Surprised that we have not heard more about what we do next.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 22-Apr-23 18:42:00

Maremia

So, they send us a warning signal about imminent danger. (I know this is just a practice) Then what? Is there a follow up of advice? How does panicking the populace help in an emergency? Surprised that we have not heard more about what we do next.

When/if the warning is used in an actual threat situation it will have details of what you should do and where to go.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 22-Apr-23 18:45:51

Galaxy

Do people have fire extinguishers in their home? I dont know anyone who does. Am I in some sort of extreme risk taking group.

I have a fire blanket (small) and a small fire extinguisher in my kitchen cupboard.

This came about due teenagers/twenty something AC coming in at silly o’clock and cooking/toasting snacks

Marydoll Sat 22-Apr-23 19:15:19

GrannyGravy13

Galaxy

Do people have fire extinguishers in their home? I dont know anyone who does. Am I in some sort of extreme risk taking group.

I have a fire blanket (small) and a small fire extinguisher in my kitchen cupboard.

This came about due teenagers/twenty something AC coming in at silly o’clock and cooking/toasting snacks

I bad both, for the same reason.
Now I have them because I don't trust myself.

SueDonim Sat 22-Apr-23 19:28:52

I acquired both a fire blanket and an extinguisher after a friend had a terrifying kitchen fire that exploded into an inferno almost instantly. A lot of us got ourselves some fire safety equipment after that. Thankfully my friend managed to get her pets away from the fire but her house was badly damaged.

My extinguisher went out of date so I don’t have it now but I’ve kept the fire blanket.

Marjgran Sat 22-Apr-23 19:57:56

So many posts seem to be from folk who seem to be so very very clever they really ought to be running civil defence in the UK. If you think you’ll never need the alarm, good on you, but let those who may want a warning get one.

volver3 Sat 22-Apr-23 20:00:58

At the risk of repeating myself...

If people want to take part in this and have your prior warning, crack on, nothing to do with me if you do or you don't.

But, I don't want it so I'm not having it.

Why does that make you angry?

effalump Sat 22-Apr-23 20:01:12

I'm undecided. I think it's more likely to be because of the supposed nuclear threat from Russia, although I do think a lot of that is fear-mongering. Put it this way, if Russia send nukes there'd be several other countries that would send theirs over to Russia - everybody loses, therefore pointless.
On a forum I was on, several people complained that they'd had an EAS at 2.00am, that was in Florida and their Govt apologised next day. Also in the UK, there is concern that people living in an abusive household may have a secret phone and a sudden alarm could have serious consequences.
On the funny side, I had to use the public loos in town last week and, unbeknown to me, they were about to do a security alarm test at the time. I almost jumped out of my skin. I thought I might be found dead from a heart attack, sat on the loo. smile

Louella12 Sat 22-Apr-23 20:11:57

Marjgran

So many posts seem to be from folk who seem to be so very very clever they really ought to be running civil defence in the UK. If you think you’ll never need the alarm, good on you, but let those who may want a warning get one.

I don't think I'm clever. In fact I know I'm not

However I am free to say that in my opinion, they are pointless.

But if they gladden the hearts of some I'm happy for them to have their alert

Saetana Sat 22-Apr-23 20:14:58

I am on the internet for most of the day, I also have the tv news on in the background - if there was an emergency I would know about it anyway. Mine has been switched off already, not interested in my phone screeching at me, and you just know there are going to be false alarms that will terrify people. For iPhones go to Settings, Notifications and then scroll all the way to the bottom and you will see two alert settings that you can either switch off or leave on.

TiggyW Sat 22-Apr-23 21:39:33

Does anyone else think it’s a coincidence that Russian ships have been spotted spying on underwater power and communication cables, and now we’re having an alarm test? I think that gives more cause for concern than a nuclear attack.

kircubbin2000 Sat 22-Apr-23 21:59:02

Ilovecheese

Some people in situations of domestic violence keep a secret phone for emergencies. They need to turn off this warning so that their abuser does not hear it and discover the hidden phone.

Some people have secret lovers too!😁

MaggsMcG Sat 22-Apr-23 22:07:25

I won't be turning mine off just yet but in reality I'm not sure I want to know in advance if Putin decides to drown us all.

GeminiJen Sat 22-Apr-23 22:08:33

From FULL FACT. I found this helpful. Hope others may too

Ahead of the government testing out an emergency alert on every phone connected to 4G or 5G in the UK this weekend at 3pm on Sunday 23 April, we have seen bad information about the emergency alert shared thousands of times online.

Misinformation about this alert may lead to unnecessary alarm, and in some instances, may even cause people to opt out of future alerts (as many online have claimed they already have) based on incorrect information.

The facts:

The emergency alert will not access your personal data. When an alert is triggered, all cell towers in the area concerned will broadcast the alert to connected devices. The government doesn’t need to know your location or phone number to do this. The Cabinet Office confirmed to Full Fact that no personal data is collected by the alert.

The alert will not be a text message you need to reply to, but will be a notification that will need to be acknowledged before you can keep using your phone as normal. It will include a website link containing further information.

Emergency Alerts won’t match personal data with information collected during the pandemic. Claims on social media suggesting that the emergency alert system will allow personal data to be collected, and that this will be matched with data collected when people signed into venues during the Covid-19 pandemic, are not true.

The government website describes the alert as “one-way” and confirms that the alert does not require the government to know any individual phone numbers. Since no data is collected by the Emergency Alert system, it isn’t possible for it to be matched with personal data collected during the pandemic.

The emergency alert test will not ‘breach GDPR’. When an alert is triggered, mobile phone masts broadcast it to every compatible phone and tablet within range. The government won’t be using your personal data, like your mobile phone number, to do this.

The alert is not an “activation signal” to activate the “pathogen in the shot”. We’ve seen claims on social media that the emergency alert test is an “activation signal” to activate the “pathogen in the shot”. This appears to be a reference to the Covid-19 vaccines. There’s no way a signal from a cell tower could “activate” a pathogen or vaccine materials including the Covid-19 vaccine.

Dr Al Edwards, associate professor in biomedical technology at the University of Reading, told Full Fact: “There is no mechanism known to physics or biology that could connect radio signals set by mobile phone data systems, to the biological or chemical materials found in vaccines.”
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FarTooYoungForThis Sat 22-Apr-23 22:35:53

What if there's a gunman on the loose randomly shooting people, an alert could warn you to stay indoors or take cover.

henetha Sat 22-Apr-23 23:22:55

Yes, that's one of many good reasons to have these alerts. They could save lives.

mistymitts Sun 23-Apr-23 02:56:26

I heard on the radio that you won’t be able to use your phone until you have made some sort of acknowledgment of the alarm. I also heard that you cannot switch to choose not to receive the alarm. Don’t know what is true or not.

rosie1959 Sun 23-Apr-23 05:34:51

mistymitts

I heard on the radio that you won’t be able to use your phone until you have made some sort of acknowledgment of the alarm. I also heard that you cannot switch to choose not to receive the alarm. Don’t know what is true or not.

A message will come up accompanying the alarm which you just tap OK and it will clear.
You can make an adjustment in your phones settings to disable it or put your phone on airplane mode then it won’t sound

karmalady Sun 23-Apr-23 06:06:10

I am not having that impositioned alarm. Just another thing to enforce sheep-like fear behaviour in the general population.

Riverwalk Sun 23-Apr-23 06:46:12

Doesn't bother me - I'll leave my phone on to hear what it sounds like.

It could be useful one day.

BlueBelle Sun 23-Apr-23 07:28:05

My thoughts exactly Riverwalk
I don’t understand what everyone is getting their knickers in a twist for or getting belligerent over 10 seconds of your life 😂seems hilarious to me all this energy used in jumping up and down to say ‘no I won’t do as I m told’

If it’s an anti ‘anything’ reason “I m not doing it because I ve been told to why should I ? “ then get out on the streets and put your anti selves to shout about this blxxdy awful government

Foxygloves Sun 23-Apr-23 07:55:08

It’s a strange reaction to get so stressed about this planned test- like others upthread I am curious as to what it will sound like, who knows, it may be important one day. I remember the flood warnings in London in the early 70’s when those living in basement flats had every reason to be grateful for advance warning.
But sheep like fear behaviour ? Really?
What a fuss about nothing.

Riverwalk Sun 23-Apr-23 07:58:57

The 2005 7/7 London bombings are uppermost in my mind when I think of the usefulness of such an alarm system.

DS2 had just started his first job and phoned to say that there were power cuts on the Tube and everyone had to get off - I'd heard some mention of this on the news, about many lines being suspended. He was walking along The Strand and said he could see a bus with Liverpool St as the destination so we was going to try and get on that, and we ended the conversation.

Right then a newsflash came on that a bus had blown-up so it was obvious that this was all a terrorist attack. I immediately tried to phone to tell him to get off the bus but by then the whole system was down. I had a long wait until he finally got to work where he phoned me.

As long as such alerts are used appropriately and sparingly I think we should make use of the available technology, and not be affronted by the very thought.

Hetty58 Sun 23-Apr-23 08:09:41

volver3, others are angry when we make our own personal decisions - how very dare we? We're not all sheep.

I found the old 'What to do in a nuclear attack' public information films hysterically funny. Hide under the stairs? Yeah, right!

They gave instructions to reassure people, to give them something to do (apart from panic) - however utterly useless and pointless it was.

NotSpaghetti Sun 23-Apr-23 08:22:05

Misty

Here's info re switching the alert off - from Women's Aid.

www.womensaid.org.uk/uk-emergency-alerts/