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Primrose53 Mon 31-Jul-23 10:35:09

Horrified to hear that a woman across the road has bought one of these. They are Italian Mastiffs and stronger than rottweillers, german shepherds, dobermans etc. Just seeing a photo of them terrifies me. I discovered that a woman and a little boy have been killed by them.

She is only about 5ft and lives alone in a very small house with tiny garden and is just not a reliable person (even her Dad says that). I have been reading up about them and they are fiercely protective, need lots of space and two long walks a day. I know she works long hours so how is that going to work?

I used to cut through past her house but will now have to go the long way round. Too risky if that thing gets out.

Jess20 Tue 01-Aug-23 12:00:18

She777 I've had dogs for years, they have bred in characteristics and it's not just environment. My friends tiny collie puppy automatically tries to round us up and my old springer tried to catch birds and carry things in his mouth. When I was at school a teacher had a visiting mastiff which attacked her husband when he came home late, it did very serious damage, otherwise it was a lovely dog and just wanted to guard its owner in a strange house. It goes without saying that a tiny dog is unlikely to kill someone with a couple of bites but a big heavy dog could do so, especially if it's a child that might run away screaming and trigger a prey reflex. Nothing on earth would make me feel confident to keep a dog like that and I hope she has good liability insurance

DaisyL Tue 01-Aug-23 12:00:50

If you check on the internet under Cane Corso it says about temperament that they are: Stable, Intelligent, Even Tempered, Alert, Reserved, Loyal, Fearless, Trainable, Quiet, Calm. Your neighbour may well be able to train this dog to be a perfectly acceptable companion. The RSPCA won't do anything unless the dog is being neglected or badly treated. I wouldn't be so pessimistic - there are no bad dogs only bad owners and you have no reason to suppose that this woman will be a bad owner.

4allweknow Tue 01-Aug-23 12:01:40

That the neighbour works long hours to me means she shouldn't have any dog, never mind the huge energetic breed involved. Is she going to get a dog walker ( good luck with that) to take it out every day. If rented house I'd definitely contact management to express concern. Local Council dog warden may be able to offer advice but it's usually a responsive service eg reacting to an incident. Wirth a try though especially if dog is going to be left for hours and hours.

Ohnoyoudont Tue 01-Aug-23 12:03:12

dogsmother

I did meet one recently, an entire male. He was with an experienced male owner of dogs but was wearing a fierce prong collar, so I imagine even he was more than ready for problems.

I'm sure prong collars are illegal. They are definitely not humane

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 01-Aug-23 12:10:10

She777

Straight away you assume the dog will be a vicious beast. Have you ever thought that dogs are a product of their environment like people? If she cares and looks after the dog properly then she nor any neighbours need worry. If however you think she is abusing it to make it mean contact the RSPCA.

This is an extremely large dog being kept in a small house with a tiny garden by a woman who works long hours and is not physically strong enough to control it. Dogs are indeed a product of their environment and this dog is being kept in very unsuitable conditions by someone who doesn’t understand its needs. This will impact badly on the dog’s temperament, with disastrous consequences if it isn’t passed on to a responsible owner.
All our German shepherds have been rescues and we have always been very carefully vetted to ensure that we understand the breed and can care for them properly. None would have been rehomed to this woman.

Grantanow Tue 01-Aug-23 12:24:20

Some people are stupidly irresponsible. This is a real risk situation and needs reporting.

missdeke Tue 01-Aug-23 12:26:37

Cane Corsos are gentle giants and in the right home are wonderful dogs. In this instance it sounds like completely the wrong home, and the dog could easily become a menace. I too would suggest speaking to the RSPCA and expressing your concern that the dog is not in a suitable home.

Callistemon21 Tue 01-Aug-23 12:30:57

She777

Straight away you assume the dog will be a vicious beast. Have you ever thought that dogs are a product of their environment like people? If she cares and looks after the dog properly then she nor any neighbours need worry. If however you think she is abusing it to make it mean contact the RSPCA.

No. We don't know and are assuming nothing.

It could be a lovely dog with the right owner in the right environment and with the right training.

The dog's present circumstances tick none of those boxes.

Iam64 Tue 01-Aug-23 12:31:02

That’s a very good point, GSD, that no responsible rescue would place a big, powerful dog with an owner who works long hours and lacks the physical strength to hold on to the dog in an emergency.

One unfortunate result of the good sense shown by rescue centres in this country, is people who’ve been turned down for good reason go to the rescues in Cyprus/Spain/Romania. Our rescues then end up picking up the pieces.

grandtanteJE65 Tue 01-Aug-23 12:33:41

eazybee

Contact the RSPCA and ask for advice, and also the Police.
Dog licences should be brought back.

Dog licences were, as far as I remember, issued at the post office to anyone who asked for the form, which you filled in and handed over to the clerk.

They were a way of registering dogs over the age of three months, so their owners could be held accountable if the dog did any harm to people or animals.

Now the registering of dogs is done using microchips.

There was no check made as to whether the dog's owner could control the animal or not, so bringing in dog licences again will not solve any problem.

The basic problem here is that anyone who can afford to do so can buy any breed of dog he or she wants.

There is no system in place to check whether those owning any domestic animal are fit to do so and prepared to feed, house, train and exercise the animal correctly.

Nor do there seem to be any form of control with the breeding of animals regarded as pets. No breed of dog is naturally vicious, although some are more aggressive naturally than others, because they and their anciestors have been train for a specific aggressive purpose.

Then there are animals that have some mental defects which may be caused by inbreeding, or have developed due to ill treatment, Such animals should not be used for breeding, but again, no-one is empowered to check whether stud animals are suitable or not.

The only way to solve some of the problems arising from the fact that people who have no idea how to go about training a dog can go and buy one, is to make it compulsory for those acquiring dogs to go to dog-training classes with them, and making legal provision for a relevant authority to remove a dog from an unsuitable owner and re-home it if possible, but otherwise have it put down.

Certainly, the woman mentioned in OP's post sounds an unsuitable person to own a dog of any breed, and the advice given OP to seek advice from the police is sound, but I doubt either they or the RSPCA can act until or unless the dog in question is allowed to run loose, or the owner is reported for maltreating it.

Cossy Tue 01-Aug-23 12:42:51

Bring back dog licences and breeders who always used to do proper checks on prospective buyers. Sadly, this seems to be an accident waiting to happen. Poor dog and foolish or just naive owner hmm

Nannyjaxx Tue 01-Aug-23 12:44:11

I agree this is a tragedy waiting to happen, but who will get the blame? It will be the dog who has been sold/given to an apparently unsuitable owner by a breeder with ££ signs in their eyes.

Blondiescot Tue 01-Aug-23 12:46:32

Germanshepherdsmum

She777

Straight away you assume the dog will be a vicious beast. Have you ever thought that dogs are a product of their environment like people? If she cares and looks after the dog properly then she nor any neighbours need worry. If however you think she is abusing it to make it mean contact the RSPCA.

This is an extremely large dog being kept in a small house with a tiny garden by a woman who works long hours and is not physically strong enough to control it. Dogs are indeed a product of their environment and this dog is being kept in very unsuitable conditions by someone who doesn’t understand its needs. This will impact badly on the dog’s temperament, with disastrous consequences if it isn’t passed on to a responsible owner.
All our German shepherds have been rescues and we have always been very carefully vetted to ensure that we understand the breed and can care for them properly. None would have been rehomed to this woman.

Couldn't agree more. A small house with a tiny garden is unsuitable for any large breed of dog. An unsuitable environment will only store up problems for the poor animal. While we carefully checked out our breeder before we got our current Lab, she also carried out extensive checks before deciding that we would be suitable owners for one of her pups.

SquirrelSue Tue 01-Aug-23 12:54:23

Totally irresponsible of the dogs owner to have this type of dog. It will need a large garden to run around in, plus at least 2 hours walk each day. As the woman is at work, its totally unacceptable to leave the dog home alone. Definitely report to housing association. The dog will get bored and out of control within weeks.

Iam64 Tue 01-Aug-23 12:57:57

Blondiescot, we did the same finding a breeder for our lab puppy. They don’t advertise, their reputation means they inky sell to people who had dogs from them previously or people like me. I got a ‘reference’ from a lab breeder/trainer who knew me with me last three dogs .

sodapop Tue 01-Aug-23 13:02:06

I'm not sure dog licences will be that effective, all dogs are supposed to be microchipped which will give their details.
I will be interested to see how the certificate of commitment works out here in France. There is large scale pet abandonment here especially round holiday tines.

Blondiescot Tue 01-Aug-23 13:07:25

Iam64

Blondiescot, we did the same finding a breeder for our lab puppy. They don’t advertise, their reputation means they inky sell to people who had dogs from them previously or people like me. I got a ‘reference’ from a lab breeder/trainer who knew me with me last three dogs .

And that is as it should be.

HousePlantQueen Tue 01-Aug-23 13:08:15

Those of you saying that dog licences should be brought back; why? What difference will it make? We, as responsible dog owners will register our dog, just as we take care of them, exercise them, have microchipped etc. This after buying or preferably rehoming a dog suitable for our lifestyle, and vice versa. Those who breed or buy dogs irresponsibly will not.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 01-Aug-23 13:12:55

When we adopted our current GSD we had to provide references from the charity we adopted our last one from and from our vet, as well as before being allowed to meet the dog giving the usual details of our family circumstances, income, home, height of fencing (minimum requirement of five feet) and whether and for how long the dog would be left alone. That’s what I call taking proper responsibility. We were accepted, others were dismissed as unsuitable.

Stella14 Tue 01-Aug-23 13:42:55

Germanshepherdsmum

She is not able to give the dog what it needs in the way of exercise and that won’t help its temperament. I would report her to the RSPCA in the hope that at least she gets proper advice and may be encouraged to rehome it.

What would you report her for exactly? Deciding to own a legal dog? For heavens sake! I get the OP has concerns, but the woman may be getting a puppy that she fully intends to train (perhaps with professional help) and manage properly 🙄

Iam64 Tue 01-Aug-23 13:43:56

As this thread shows, respectable, experienced dog owners are responsible. Dog licences would make no difference - we’d carry on being responsible and too many others won’t.

We need government to introduce tighter regulations for breeding, a complete ban on breeders who haven’t been inspected by the authorities. Clamp down on back street breeders. Proper training for dog wardens followed by powers to prosecute, remove dogs. It would cost money to tighten things but it needs to happen.

Many responsible owners now hire enclosed fields to train and exercise their dogs. My local park is dominated by ‘professional’ dog walkers with 7 off lead dogs.

Iam64 Tue 01-Aug-23 13:45:27

Stella14, it isn’t responsible to buy any puppy when working full time. More so if living in accommodation unsuitable for the breed

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 01-Aug-23 13:51:04

Stella, the woman is not in a position to look after a dog like this. She is far too small to control it, she works long hours and her property is inadequate to meet the dog’s needs. Isn’t it obvious what one would report given this situation? Or should one wait for the inevitable consequences of keeping a very large and powerful dog, bored, in a small property without proper exercise?

Dillonsgranma Tue 01-Aug-23 13:51:50

Ring your dog warden and explain your fears. I did that about two dogs in the park Absolutely enormous. Don’t see them any more

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 01-Aug-23 13:53:48

Agreed Iam. I’m surprised that there are still no national rules on the number of dogs which may be walked together after the tragic incident some time ago. Just left to local authorities to make regulations - or not.