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Now here is a dilemma ....... what would you do?

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Luckygirl3 Mon 25-Sept-23 10:08:09

The lady who cleans for me is off for a few months following a hip replacement and I have someone new coming in - a young girl who put a card through the door. Seems nice and did a good job.

But ..... I have just found that two rings of mine have gone missing - one of them the only monetarily valuable one I possess, an eternity ring with 5 diamonds. The other is my original wedding ring - which I never wear because it is a 70s wide one and my finger itches underneath it.

They were in ring boxes, so could not have rolled anywhere, and in a cupboard in my bedroom. I do not wear the eternity ring very often, nor go in there for any reason. But now I find them gone ...... I have searched everywhere, but since I know that they were in this one place where all my jewellery is kept, it is virtually impossible for them to have been anywhere else.

Now, I absolutely realise that I might have moved them and forgotten this, but it would be a strange thing to do as I seldom wear them and they live in the cupboard with the other stuff.

I have cancelled the new cleaner - told and white lie and said that my old one is about to come back. There is no way I am going to bandy accusations about, and only my DDs know about this situation.

The cleaner is a one-man-band, not from an agency, and seemed a nice young lass. She was on her own for a chunk of time last time she was here as I had to go out. She locked up and put the key through the door for me.

I can see no other explanation than they have been taken. It is not a nice feeling.

Shelflife Mon 25-Sept-23 14:48:02

That's a sound point BlueBelle, I had assumed the regular cleaner had worked for Luckygirl long enough to be trusted . Whatever it is a very unpleasant situation to be in. There is a remote chance the rings turn up somewhere else in the house , do hope so.

buffyfly9 Mon 25-Sept-23 15:02:27

You have a real dilemma! I think looking on ebay is a good idea as I agree with others that say a young person is more likely to sell things on there. I think the fact that you left her to lock up enabled her to have a good look round. Exactly this happened to a friend of mine, it's awful when you feel you cannot trust anyone.

NotSpaghetti Mon 25-Sept-23 15:16:43

Or on Vinted.

MayBee70 Mon 25-Sept-23 15:36:15

How awful. I lost an item of jewellery, just a necklace, but found it years later when I moved a piece of furniture out. And, when I was at school a purse disappeared. I was accused of covering up for someone (although the headmistress was probably asking me to confess to stealing it) because I blushed when the teacher asked the thief to confess. I also thought people would think it was me because I went to a very good grammar school and my family was very poor compared to everyone else’s. I didn’t want to go back to school after the summer holidays but couldn’t tell my parents because I knew it would upset them but, when I did return in September they told us that the piano tuner had found it inside the piano. It really affected me quite badly. It’s a horrible situation when something goes missing. I looked for a small silver ring to give to my granddaughter but couldn’t find it. Then, lo and behold, when I looked in my jewellery drawer for something else, there was the ring! I think, in retrospect, it might have been a good idea to keep the cleaner on but keep a record of anything of value in the house so you’d know for certain that she could be the only person to have taken it. There’s also the worry that she’s preying on other people, too.

Callistemon21 Mon 25-Sept-23 16:13:34

There are a lot on Ebay but it is worth a search; not something I've looked at before but you can search by size if that helps.

It's rather uncomfortable not knowing for sure and the fact she is cleaning for your neighbour is awkward.
Could you ask the nrighbour how she's getting on with the cleaner?
Or ask if she can recommend a cleaner and try to find out subtly?

I would doubt that it was the old cleaner if she is well-known in the area.

AGAA4 Mon 25-Sept-23 16:41:21

It's a horrible feeling when someone steals from you and this does sound like a theft.
I did wonder when I had to leave workmen in my flat if they were honest. The only thing they did was to eat all my biscuits.
I think I may invest in a small safe for valuables in case I have to have work done in future.

Luckygirl3 Mon 25-Sept-23 17:06:14

It is distressing feeling you have to mistrust people. I am just hoping that a miracle might occur and they turn up somewhere - though goodness knows where - I never move them from the cupboard.

Delila Mon 25-Sept-23 17:17:09

For all you know they may have been missing for ages, long before the new cleaner started work for you, or…. speaking of the “proverbial safe place”, are you sure you didn’t put your rings in a safe place prior to a new cleaner starting?

eazybee Mon 25-Sept-23 17:26:44

Horrible.
It happened to my grandmother when she was elderly, and my father noticed things missing: unused sheets, pillowcases, towels and a tartan travelling rug. She asked the cleaner, supplied by social services, who wad very offended and refused to work for her again. Some time later my uncle died and then my aunt was ill; my parents went to help, and discovered all the items in their house; apparently no-one was using them and so they helped themselves each time they visited.
Parents contacted social services and were able to apologise to the cleaner who said she was glad to be vindicated, but what an awful thing for my uncle and aunt to do. There were all sorts of other things, not valuable but family items that had come from an uncle who fought in the Crimean war, which my uncle had taken without saying, which upset my father as he wanted me to have them. I did eventually, but there was a real family tussle over them.

nadateturbe Mon 25-Sept-23 17:39:09

I'm not sure what you can do, or if you'll ever see them again, Luckygirl. Just wanted to say I'm sorry this has happened.

Urmstongran Mon 25-Sept-23 17:50:09

I’m sorry for you too Luckygirl what an unsettling experience.
x

Calendargirl Mon 25-Sept-23 17:54:51

How awful. I would rather give something away than have it stolen.

It’s sad not to be able to trust people.

I dread having to employ a cleaner as I would feel I had to lock valuables away.

I know that doesn’t make me a very nice person.

Oreo Mon 25-Sept-23 21:28:39

Calendargirl it makes you a real sensible person.
When you employ a cleaner you know nothing about their past or character.Don’t leave valuable items on show when a cleaner comes round or in drawers or cupboards as they can easily be found.Keep jewellery in your handbag with you or behind tins of food in the kitchen if you must.
why does anyone trust somebody they really don’t know?
What a shame for you Luckygirl to lose treasured items in this way, but if you have other jewellery, loose change, cash, cheque book, credit and debit cards and anything else, keep it on you while a cleaner is in the house.
Other things can be taken too, watches, small ornaments, perfume and so on.

Callistemon21 Mon 25-Sept-23 22:13:12

I think they probably have gone and I'm really sorry, Luckygirl
However, you could sit calmly and let your mind drift back to when you last saw them.
You could also pray to St Anthony- yes it does work, obviously only if they are still in the house somewhere.
Dear St Anthony, full of grace, lead me to their hiding place.

Good luck, whatever you decide to do.

Luckygirl3 Mon 25-Sept-23 22:43:51

Thank you. I cannot be 100% sure they are stolen, so there is nothing I can do but hope they might turn up.

JenniferEccles Tue 26-Sept-23 10:00:43

This is awful and particularly so as the thief must have realised that the two rings would be of huge sentimental value to you.

Can I ask, did you request any references from this girl? You say she just put a card through your door, so she was in effect a complete stranger who you left in your house.

I do realise your dilemma though that you can’t be absolutely sure that they were stolen but from what you have said it does sound like it.

In your position I would definitely have a word with the neighbour, telling her what you have said on here, about the slight uncertainty, but I do think she should be warned.

biglouis Tue 26-Sept-23 12:38:08

The previous cleaner I had I instructed never to go into my stock room as I did not want things moved about. The boxes of stock are kept in a specific order.

One day I went in to find her looking through boxes of jewellery. I asked her what she was doing there and she tried to argue that she was "Just giving it a tidy". I paid her off immediately and told her never to come back. I made no secret of the fact that I was very displeased and suspicious of her behaviour.

I have not yet come across anthing missing. Because I deal in antique and vintage jewellery she may not have realised the value of what was there.

I now have a small cctv camera in there on a high shelf where its unlikely to be noticed.

Philippa111 Tue 26-Sept-23 13:00:23

Thats not nice at all. What a difficult place to be in!

I think it's a warning to us all that sadly times have changed and there are more opportunistic people around. A note through the letterbox is not a safe option.

If you only discovered the loss with this new person, it doesn't look like the old cleaner.

I had a cleaner once who was recommended to me. He had slight learning difficulties and was easy to be around and did a good job. I never left him alone in the house, however. I recommended him to someone else for their elderly mother with mild dementia. He was given her bank card to go and do shopping for her. It later transpired that he had a criminal record and had used her card to withdraw money for himself. He was arrested.

Please let us know what you decide to do... not easy!

SparklyGrandma Wed 27-Sept-23 12:20:57

Someone might have taken them prior to her starting. I’ve mislaid stuff and assumed it’s my fault rather than loose a cleaner or carer.
Anything valuable needs to be under lock and key to be safe. Without the key left in it.

Eirlys Wed 27-Sept-23 12:25:17

I have had the same happen with less valuable and noticeable items. I took the coward's way out and cancelled a new cleaner (with a lie). I felt I couldn't do anything about it as I couldn't be absolutely certain it was her. I fear as one grows older this will happen again. "Loss of memory" will be mentioned.. "Losing her marbles". Because of this I have given away my valuables to my family. I still grieve for the loss of a non-valuable, but pretty item, given to me by my grandmother way back in the Forties. I comfort myself with the saying, " Well you can't take it with you," though I'm tempted to add, "In that case I'm not going!"

Sago Wed 27-Sept-23 12:30:19

It’s a difficult position to be in but if you are going to accuse your cleaning lady you also have to consider every person who has been in your home.

Aveline Wed 27-Sept-23 13:04:05

The very old lady in our flats announced that valuable rings had been stolen. It was very difficult for her kind neighbour who really looked after. The police were involved. The rings were found in the bottom of a cupboard. The policemen warned the kind neighbour not to go into the flat on her own again as it rendered her vulnerable to allegations. After that people went in twos.

widgeon3 Wed 27-Sept-23 13:07:02

Some years ago, we had the central heating updated. A very pleasant and diligent young man spent hours on installing temperature control valves on each radiator

My grandmother had recently died, probate was granted and I had inherited her engagement ring
A daughter was home from university for Christmas and , as eldest child I planned to pass it on to her.

I started to pack up the presents only to discover that grandma's ring was missing and it was obvious to me where it had gone although I was dismayed to entertain the idea.
As I took my husband aside to tell him of my suspicions, I noticed flashes from my daughter's hand as she sat in a dark corner near the fire
Yes, she said, waving the ring at me, It was so pretty, I thought I should try it on
..... and I was so close to following my earlier suspicions about the guiltless young plumber

madeleine45 Wed 27-Sept-23 13:12:14

just on a connected vein. I have always been careful about jewellery etc but when we moved, the strain and stress of it all, means that you are up to your eyes in getting sorted and are not likely to be going anywhere much in the beginning. So it was a couple of months before I wanted my gold necklace and always kept it in jewellery box and it had gone. It could only have been one of the removal men. I have moved 19 times as an adult and am quite organised etc. If I had found out as soon as we had moved I could have probably traced it, as it was a three strand different gold carat to this country and I bought it with my earnings as a singer in Portugal. Too late to try and prove anything then but now I make that one of the jobs I check on the removal day however weary I feel. So you may also think of checking things in a moving situaton

Cabbie21 Wed 27-Sept-23 13:16:42

I am about to have a decorator in. He is actually my son’s closest friend, so I was assuming he can be trusted, but this thread has now made me nervous about leaving him alone in the house. Probably I am being silly but now I am definitely not going to go away overnight as I might have done.