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Whethertomorrow Wed 13-Dec-23 13:47:39

My son (43) has a severe bout of covid and is feeling dreadful. He works from home for an American company and is unable to take time off due to company’s attitude. They had a Christmas party yesterday and he refused to travel due to temperature of 39.2 and passing around the virus. His boss was most displeased and was aggressively trying to make him attend the party in central London. My son eventually was allowed to not attend.

My daughter in law is a high school teacher and yesterday she found out the teacher in the next room has tested positive for COVID but is allowed to teach as long as she wears a mask.

Is COVID such a small threat that we no longer have to stay at home when we have it? Employers seem to make people come into work when surely it’s more sensible to stop spreading it about. I’m not suggesting another lockdown but it appears to me that the pendulum has swung the other way.

Would you go out when you have it?

MerylStreep Sat 16-Dec-23 12:28:32

If you’re a single working mother and your company doesn’t pay sick pay, you don’t have an option.

JaneJudge Sat 16-Dec-23 12:26:59

The problem is employers who want staff in when they are too ill to work (or even party in this case!)

Dickens Sat 16-Dec-23 12:20:40

montymops

My husband and I both got Covid in April 2020 - it was early days and there were no vaccinations. We are both immunosuppressed - We both recovered well - I was quite ill for a week but after that, apart from an irritating cough which lasted 3 months, I was fine. I have since read - and don’t know if it is true or not- that those people who are immunosuppressed have a better chance of recovering well because Covid attacks the immune system. I guess that if that isn’t very strong, there’s not so much to attack! I don’t know 😳🤔

A normal immune system produces proteins - cytokines -that help it to coordinate a response against bacteria /viruses.

If produced in excess they can actually damage the body and its organs (cytokine storm).

Possibly the immunosuppressed do not produce sufficient proteins for this to happen? Which would explain why an elderly person with a suppressed immune system can occasionally fare better than a younger fit person with a normal immune system?

montymops Sat 16-Dec-23 11:52:11

My husband and I both got Covid in April 2020 - it was early days and there were no vaccinations. We are both immunosuppressed - We both recovered well - I was quite ill for a week but after that, apart from an irritating cough which lasted 3 months, I was fine. I have since read - and don’t know if it is true or not- that those people who are immunosuppressed have a better chance of recovering well because Covid attacks the immune system. I guess that if that isn’t very strong, there’s not so much to attack! I don’t know 😳🤔

maddyone Sat 16-Dec-23 11:36:34

M0nica

No. If I was your son. I would change my job, if I could.

I agree with Monica.
No one should go to work with Covid or any other flu or virus that can be transmitted to others.

Diggingdoris Sat 16-Dec-23 11:24:12

I heard from a nurse friend that they are allowed to go to work with it but must wear a mask and not handle patients! So admin jobs to do. Doesn't sound safe to me!

SueDonim Wed 13-Dec-23 21:29:46

Well, exactly, Dickens! I did some weird things when I had Covid, such as making phone calls of which I had no memory. They only came to light because people phoned me back after I’d left messages!

Lomo123 Wed 13-Dec-23 21:22:22

My daughter works in a stroke ward and they have to go to work when they test positive. They wear masks but it's still a massive risk to people who have no say in the matter. I wouldn't go out if I tested positive.

Dickens Wed 13-Dec-23 19:54:41

SueDonim

My DD is an A&E doctor. Their rules are that you go into work unless your temperature is over 39deg.

She had Covid for the second time in the summer but felt too ill to go in. She now thinks she has flu. 🤷‍♀️

Surely, no-one should go into work if they feel really ill?

There's a point at which you just can't function properly - quite important for a medical professional?

Georgesgran Wed 13-Dec-23 18:47:21

I’d go out for fresh air (remote location) if I felt up to it, but mixing with others would be a definite NO.

SueDonim Wed 13-Dec-23 18:42:43

My DD is an A&E doctor. Their rules are that you go into work unless your temperature is over 39deg.

She had Covid for the second time in the summer but felt too ill to go in. She now thinks she has flu. 🤷‍♀️

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 13-Dec-23 18:36:51

Even if you don’t feel too bad, if you pass it on to someone else it could kill them even if fully vaccinated. Please don’t take that risk.

Imarocker Wed 13-Dec-23 18:29:02

We’ve been told to treat Covid as a cold now. Which means we can go out, to work and school. However, I have it at the moment and am quite poorly. I’ve been in bed all day and I don’t think anyone would thank me for turning up at a Xmas party this evening.

Mazgg Wed 13-Dec-23 18:28:23

I have been on steroids for 8 weeks now for an autoimmune condition and now reducing the steroids and increasing the dose of an immunosuppressant. This make me vulnerable to infection and I have to report to the hospital if I catch anything as I could be quite ill. I am surprised at how blase some people are. My neighbour hasn't had the shingles vaccine as she gets bad side effects after vaccinations but has been looking after her grandson with chickenpox. She is a nurse and going about her life as normal.
Needless to say I am giving her a wide berth.

Dickens Wed 13-Dec-23 18:14:42

A fever can result in convulsions or delirium. Apart fromany other considerations.

No doctor would suggest it's OK to travel and attend a party. Especially if someone is feeling pretty ill.

I hope your son feels better - quite soon.

... and that he's a man with talent in his line of work and can look around for another employer who would treat him with more respect.

rosie1959 Wed 13-Dec-23 18:09:57

I recently had a bad cough didn’t feel particularly ill but still tested just in case by my previous experiences of Covid. I kept well away from meetings ect whilst I had this cough nobody wants to share it.

Tenko Wed 13-Dec-23 18:08:51

No I definitely wouldn’t go out to work or to any place outside the home if I had covid . It’s very irresponsible. Covid is still here and people are getting ill with it and hospital admissions are increasing, obviously with flu as well .
I think the nhs guidelines are to stay at home for 5 days since the first symptoms or a negative test .

singingnutty Wed 13-Dec-23 17:20:30

I have just had Covid but tested negative today after 5 days. Still don't feel very good though. The symptoms were those of a really bad cold and I had a high temperature for 36 hours. I probably wouldn't have tested if I hadn't had a message from a friend saying that she had it and we had been singing in the same room a few days before. Needless to say DH now has it, but he just had a day when he felt tired and generally off-colour. Better to stay out of the way of people if you can, although our plumber was installing a new boiler for us whilst I didn't know I was getting it, so fingers crossed I didn't pass it on.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 13-Dec-23 16:34:14

It’s quite frightening, especially if your health is such that catching covid would be particularly dangerous. I wonder if anyone else was persuaded to attend the event despite being ill. Karma would see the boss catching it.

Grannynannywanny Wed 13-Dec-23 16:22:33

I was talking to my friend earlier. She was saying she felt uneasy on her bus journey in to town as there was a man sitting behind her coughing and spluttering. He answered his phone and said to his friend on the other end “yes I’ve got covid but I’m still going to the football tonight. See you later”
I wonder how many folk he’ll have infected before his day is over.

M0nica Wed 13-Dec-23 16:05:29

No. If I was your son. I would change my job, if I could.

YorkLady Wed 13-Dec-23 15:39:47

Reading this as a person who is immunosuppressed, I am horrified.
Is it now acceptable to put other people’s lives at risk???

Freya5 Wed 13-Dec-23 15:36:03

If you have Covid , stay at home. It does exist, and there are guidelines as before on Gov.UK. can we force people to stay at home, no,but surely you would to stop others, especially vulnerable, getting it. I wouldn't go anywhere with flu either, both can be very debilitating and both are infectious.
The problems lies with companies not having a sick pay policy.
With mortgage or rent to pay, who can afford to live on £76 ssp.

rosie1959 Wed 13-Dec-23 15:28:27

The fact that your son felt ill with a high temperature should be enough to keep him at home regardless of it being Covid nobody wants to pass any virus around. Very short thinking of his boss did he want all of his staff infected for the sake of a party

Whethertomorrow Wed 13-Dec-23 15:08:07

He tested positive for COVID. It’s a ridiculous state of affairs. No reporting figures so it doesn’t exist!