Gotten or Got

I have lived in Devon, Sussex, Wiltshire, Hampshire, Oxfordshire, Kent, Lincolnshire, and The Shetlands. I have travelled to many parts of the country too. It has always been "got" wherever I have been.

gotten is american . american journalists on the dm are causing these 'americanisms' to creep into our english language.

I watch judge judy and she is frequently correcting uoung people on the show who say 'tooken' instead of taken! Lets hope that one doesn't creep over here!

Young people nowadays say, ' Can I get?'. Just awful.

Callistemon21

^i think saying, may i have ...would feel rather arch and unnatural to most young people^.

It was drummed into me.

"Can I have" was considered to be rude.

i presume you are not a young person.
that's my point.
it sounds completely different to many young people, so i'm guessing it will die out as the usual form.

Yes, Callistemon21, as I have already said, I have heard it used here by Doric speakers.

I've never heard anyone say gotten round here.
My late sister who had lived in different parts of America over 60 years, when speaking to her on the phone always used to say gotten.

Wheniwasyourage

Ok, then perhaps it’s reasonable to accept that in some areas, people have not stopped using “gotten”!

But where?
Has anyone heard it anywhere in the UK?

i think saying, may i have ...would feel rather arch and unnatural to most young people.

It was drummed into me.

"Can I have" was considered to be rude.

Ok, then perhaps it’s reasonable to accept that in some areas, people have not stopped using “gotten”!

Er I do live in Scotland and, like most Scots, am well aware that there are many dialects here. As there are in every country.

Please may I point out to those of you who say that you live in Scotland and have never heard anyone saying “gotten”, that there are quite a few dialects in Scotland.

Born and raised in Birmingham, and I've never used or heard 'gotten'

I'm Scottish I don't use gotten and I haven't heard it used either

I would say got. Can recommend the Bill Bryson book - fascinating.

i think saying,
may i have ...
would feel rather arch and unnatural to most young people.
they would feel self-conscious saying it, not relaxed.
i think it will largely die out.
how many now announce their desire to retire for the evening.
probably some edwardians were repelled by youngsters boldly stating that they were going to bed.

what did you get for xmas,
is not all that far from
can i get a coffee.
get is doing the same work; receive, be given.

The thing I hate is … can I get … as in ordering a coffee in Costa etc!! Surely … may I have a cappuccino… is just a bit nicer. My son says this 🤦🏼‍♀️!!!

Language evolves. Yes, it is used more in America, I think than in the UK, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the Americans are incorrect. When a language is exported it will change organically. When I was at school we weren’t even allowed to use the verb ‘to get’ nor any of its tenses. Our English teacher made us find the correct verb to use. E.g. ‘get the phone’ ‘answer the phone’
‘ I’ve got a cold’ - ‘I’ve caught a cold’

GOT was correct in the SE and the Midlands as grew up.
Gotten has crept in with all the rubbishy American TV that they brainwash us with today.

Like most others I’ve never heard anyone in the UK say gotten.
I suppose it was used here hundreds of years ago and then settlers in America continued using it but it dropped out of common usage here.

"Gotten" is commonly used in USA. A subset of folk may well use it here, but then we also see the likes of "would of", "could of", "might of", etc (or even written as "would ov"!), doesn't make them correct either.

I think it's used in Ireland, by what proportion I have no idea, but they do have some expressions that are odd to us? If it's used in Liverpool, well see similar comments as per Ireland?!

Urmstongran

I’ve used it on occasion. Actually quite like it! 😊
As in ‘I’ve gotten used to doing it this way’ for example.

I use it sometimes too. I’m Irish and not young! Don’t think it was taught in Ireland but it was used presumably.

I have lived in USA and Ireland.
“Gotten’ is American English. It is considered ungrammatical in Ireland.

someone studied in new york and never heard the word gotten ??
didn't get out much ?

Definitely an Americanism and sounds awful. I have never heard of it having an Irish connection having spent a lot of time listening to Irish people.