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lizzypopbottle Wed 06-Mar-24 12:31:15

I've been meaning to broach this for a while and another thread prompted me at last...

So, in conversation, somebody said 'pardon' and I came out with, "Pardon Mrs Arden, there's a chicken in your garden!" To which my lovely mum-in-law said, " No Liz, it's 'Pardon Mrs Harden, there's a kitten in your garden!'" I'm originally from the North West and M-i-L North East.

So which do you say?

Also, I hum and hah but others um and ah. Posh people hem and haw.

What do you do when you're hesitating?

There was another one but it's slipped my mind.... it might come back...oh!

Egg and chips or chips and egg? I say chips and egg....

I'm sure there are more.

Witzend Wed 06-Mar-24 13:26:55

Aveline

We were never allowed to say, 'pardon'. Only, 'I beg your pardon' or if necessary, 'Sorry?'

Me too!

MissAdventure Wed 06-Mar-24 13:29:34

We had to say pardon, which I've since learned can be seen as rude.

I can't imagine saying anything else though.

Primrose53 Wed 06-Mar-24 13:34:37

My Irish Mum used to say “Pardon Mrs Arden, there’s a kitten in your garden.”

There was another saying she had something to do with vinegar. Have to think about that.

Labradora Wed 06-Mar-24 13:37:26

"whenIwasyourage"

Many thanks for the rest of the chicken songsmile

Juliet27 Wed 06-Mar-24 13:39:33

First time I ever heard the ‘Arden, pardon’ thing was when Bob Mortimer mentioned it on ‘Would I Lie to You’.

Blue and green should never be seen whereas a friend from the north says red and green.

MissAdventure Wed 06-Mar-24 13:40:24

Blue and green here.

Oldnproud Wed 06-Mar-24 13:48:48

I think the version I knew went as follows:
Beg pardon, Mrs Arden, there's a kitten in your garden.
Yes there is and all alone, chewing on a mutton bone.

Oldnproud Wed 06-Mar-24 13:52:11

Witzend

Never heard the Mrs Arden thing.
Egg and chips here. (Outer London childhood)

One difference I used to notice, a friend from Sheffield used to refer to what I would call fairy cakes, as buns. To me buns would be made from a yeast mix, not a sponge cake mix.

They were definitely 'buns' in my part of Yorkshire too, though I often saw and heard them referred to as ^fairy cakes' elsewhere.
Nowadays, the younger people in our family all call them 'cupcakes'.

biglouis Wed 06-Mar-24 13:58:53

Native Liverpudlian here. Never heard of the chicken one.

We say:-

sausage and mash
egg and chips
Bread and butter

My grandmother taught me never to say pardon but "what?"

Pardon was working class.

Elegran Wed 06-Mar-24 14:18:59

I beg your pardon, Mrs Arden,
Your cat's had kittens in our back garden.

Sussex or Monmouthshire

GrannySomerset Wed 06-Mar-24 14:37:43

London suburbia here and it was definitely “ I beg your pardon” - could sound less than polite if said in a certain tone of voice. Didn’t know the chicken one but like it very much.

Kate1949 Wed 06-Mar-24 14:37:45

My mother, who was Irish, used to say:

I beg your pardon Mrs Mardon your black cat's in my back garden.

In Brum we say egg and chips
Crusty rolls are cobs.

Gin Wed 06-Mar-24 14:50:07

Definitely kitten in the South East. My mother used to sing this to me:

Pardon Mrs Arden there’s a kitty in your garden
Going meow, meow, meow.
Such a pretty kitty isn’t it a pity
Going meow, meow, meow.
Her coat is warm and as soft as silk
All she wants is a saucer full of milk
Pardon Mrs A…………….and so on

BlueBelle Wed 06-Mar-24 16:06:47

Never ever heard of Mrs Ardon and her pardon

Shinamae Wed 06-Mar-24 16:09:42

MissAdventure

Pardon Mrs. Arden, there's a piggy in my garden. (When someone burps)

I didn't hear this until I was in my 30s, though.

This..😉

grannydarkhair Wed 06-Mar-24 16:20:23

It’s the first I’ve ever heard of Mrs Arden and all her variations.
Any time “chips” is mentioned, it always comes last, e.g. fish and chips, egg and chips.
Also, I’m a “sorry?” rather than a “pardon”.
Red and green should never be seen except on a fairy Queen.

JamesandJon33 Wed 06-Mar-24 16:21:57

S west Wales

Egg and chips, and a bag of scrumps
Bread and jam
Cheese and biscuits
Never heard of Mrs Arden . Mrs Ire , yes. As in Fire, fire Mrs Ire

AGAA4 Wed 06-Mar-24 16:23:32

Never heard the Mrs Arden rhyme.
I remember a young colleague from Yorkshire asking if I would like a bun. The bun turned out to be a cream slice. Was this just her or do people in Yorkshire call cakes buns? She always referred to cakes as buns.

Wheniwasyourage Wed 06-Mar-24 16:27:50

I've just googled the song which my mother sang as "Chook chook chook chook chooken". According to Amazon, it is called "Chick chick chick chick chicken" (don't care, that's not what my DM said!) and it was recorded by The Two Gilberts in December 1925. So there we go - every day you learn something new!

Greenfinch Wed 06-Mar-24 16:28:22

Scones or scon(e)s
DH says former, I say latter.

Grandma70s Wed 06-Mar-24 16:30:39

I would never have said pardon. It was (and is) considered vulgar. “Sorry?” was the acceptable word, said with a questioning inflection and expression.

I’m from NW England, but have lived in London and in Scotland also.

Egg and chips
Bread and jam

‘Chips and egg’ sounded so odd to me in Shirley Valentine, and ‘jam and bread’ in The Sound of Music. I assumed that was for the rhyme, or because the song was American.

Does anyone say ‘chips and fish’? I’ve never heard it..

CoolCoco Wed 06-Mar-24 16:34:41

Beg your parding Mrs Arding, theres a kitting in your garding.

I don't know why we added the g.

Witzend Wed 06-Mar-24 16:42:39

Callistemon21

MissAdventure

Chook?
It's chicken here.

Chooks live in Australia.

My mother used to sing Chick chick chick chick chicken etc

Actually, hens lay eggs .....

DD’s rescues are known as cluckies in their house. 🐔🐔

winterwhite Wed 06-Mar-24 16:43:18

My mother came from the NE, she taught us the whole of Chick, chick, chick, chick, chicken (which I'm pleased to be reminded about).

I beg your pardon Mrs Arden there's a chicken in your garden - but never to say 'Pardon', dunno what the point of that saying is.

Egg and chips (chips and egg sounds odd - suppose you wanted two eggs?

Baps

Scribbles Wed 06-Mar-24 16:46:19

Pardon Mrs. Arden, there's a piggy in my garden. (When someone burps)

Thanks, MissAdventure. I knew the chicken/kitten thing wasn't what I grew up with but I couldn't remember what the correct version was! I was introduced to the "piggy" rhyme aged around eight by my cousin who grew up in Oxfordshire.
The same cousin varied her excuse-mes occasionally with, "Pardon me; I was not rude. It was not me, it was my food."
My dad was enormously irritated by what he considered total silliness and threatened my sister and I with all sorts of dire consequences if we uttered those rhymes in his presence.