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lizzypopbottle Wed 06-Mar-24 12:31:15

I've been meaning to broach this for a while and another thread prompted me at last...

So, in conversation, somebody said 'pardon' and I came out with, "Pardon Mrs Arden, there's a chicken in your garden!" To which my lovely mum-in-law said, " No Liz, it's 'Pardon Mrs Harden, there's a kitten in your garden!'" I'm originally from the North West and M-i-L North East.

So which do you say?

Also, I hum and hah but others um and ah. Posh people hem and haw.

What do you do when you're hesitating?

There was another one but it's slipped my mind.... it might come back...oh!

Egg and chips or chips and egg? I say chips and egg....

I'm sure there are more.

nanna8 Thu 07-Mar-24 05:50:27

There’s a kangaroo loose in the top paddock = you’re losing it.
Rushing around like a blue arsed fly= pointless rushing about
Icypole= ice cream on a stick, fruit variety
So far up hisself he can see daylight ( needs no explanation!)
Gone troppo= probably lives in FNQ ( far North Queensland) and affected by the weather

BlueBelle Thu 07-Mar-24 07:13:13

Egg and chips, and a bag of scrumps
No don’t say scrumps
We use the word ‘scraps’
Fish, chips and scraps please

Juliet27 Thu 07-Mar-24 07:32:51

It's raining over Bill's mother's". I don't know which region that is from.
In the SE I say ‘bit dark over Will’s mum’s’

Thanks Callistemon for putting the true ‘Mares eat oats…..words.

Chocolatelovinggran Thu 07-Mar-24 07:37:08

Oh Gin, I loved the phrase about going to the foot of the stairs to indicate surprise. I heard it first in Liverpool, too, and have used it ever since. It makes no sense, of course...

BlueBelle Thu 07-Mar-24 07:55:26

Well I use the ‘will wife’s mothers”
My Nan used to say
“Looking dark over Wills wife’s mothers” she was from Leicestershire I queried this years later and was told the Will is William Shakespeare not sure why his wife’s mum though

We also used to go to ‘ the foot of our stairs’

My Nan also used to say “here comes Phoebe” when the sun comes out no one round here had heard of it but when I look it up I think Phoebe was the god ofvthe sun or something so did made sense

My grandad used to “go to see a man about a dog” when he didn’t want to say where he was going , again Leicestershire

BlueBelle Thu 07-Mar-24 07:57:48

Oh another I ve just thought of
If someone rushing around they ve “got a flea up their bum”

downtoearth Thu 07-Mar-24 07:57:49

From Essex Mrs Arden had a pussy in her garden

Witzend Thu 07-Mar-24 08:04:55

Oldnproud

Witzend

Never heard the Mrs Arden thing.
Egg and chips here. (Outer London childhood)

One difference I used to notice, a friend from Sheffield used to refer to what I would call fairy cakes, as buns. To me buns would be made from a yeast mix, not a sponge cake mix.

They were definitely 'buns' in my part of Yorkshire too, though I often saw and heard them referred to as ^fairy cakes' elsewhere.
Nowadays, the younger people in our family all call them 'cupcakes'.

Gdcs always have to be told that the things I make for their birthday parties are fairy cakes, NOT cupcakes! Cupcakes are bigger - and usually topped with far too much icing.

Elegran Thu 07-Mar-24 08:49:30

"Bluebelle* That is Shakespeare, too.
Poem from "Cymbelline" -

Phoebus is driving his sun chariot across the skies.

"Hark, hark! the lark at heaven's gate sings,
And Phoebus 'gins arise,
His steeds to water at those springs
On chaliced flowers that lies;
And winking Mary-buds begin
To ope their golden eyes:
With every thing that pretty is,
My lady sweet, arise:
Arise, arise."

Mary-buds = marigolds, particularly the marsh marigold, " a flower of wet grasslands, marshes, ditches and river margins, which displays its flash of brilliant gold in spring . . . the yellow plant of Bealtaine, the old Celtic festival of sun, fire and life, heralding the return of summer and celebrated on May 1" www.irishnews.com/lifestyle/2016/05/07/news/take-on-nature-winking-marybuds-stir-old-rituals-506023/

annodomini Thu 07-Mar-24 09:34:53

I don't think Mrs Arden crossed the Border. At least, I never heard of her in my Scottish childhood.

LilyoftheValley Thu 07-Mar-24 16:21:59

I was taught to ignore a burp. If you say pardon it draws others attention to it. If you ignore it they can do the same.

MissAdventure Thu 07-Mar-24 16:35:33

I was taught to say pardon me (without the piggy poem!)

NotSpaghetti Thu 07-Mar-24 16:45:38

Honestly!

THESE are fairycakes
grin

JudyBloom Thu 07-Mar-24 16:54:22

I have never heard of the Mrs Arden thing.
I would always put the 'main' part of a meal first:

Egg & chips
Sausage & mash
Bread & butter
Fish & chips

NotSpaghetti Thu 07-Mar-24 17:43:15

And yes, cupcakes are bigger

Oldnproud Thu 07-Mar-24 17:58:07

NotSpaghetti

Honestly!

THESE are fairycakes
grin

No, those are butterfly buns, just like the ones my grandma, then my mum, then I made. grin

Callistemon21 Thu 07-Mar-24 20:15:32

Fairy cakes. With or without icing. Made in small paper cases.

Ali08 Thu 07-Mar-24 20:25:04

Pardon Mrs. Arden but I can't recall what was in her garden.
Egg n chips. I think it rolls off the tongue easier.
I'm a Geordie but I have lived in the S/E for donkeys years now.
I'd hum and haa, and my mother always told me it's 'I beg your pardon?' Not just 'pardon?' Apparently, saying it on it's own is considered rude! Oh, hum and haa!

CanadianGran Thu 07-Mar-24 21:05:12

I have never heard the Mrs Arden phrase.

Here after a burp, some will say 'scuse my French!

TheMostSuprisingGran Fri 08-Mar-24 21:45:53

Nobody else has said this, but I was taught Mrs Arden had a worm in her garden. I'm from the SE.

crazyH Fri 08-Mar-24 21:52:19

I’ve never understood ‘pie and mash’ - are we talking of pork pie and mash, steak pie and mash, mince beef pie and mash? I only have chips and gravy with my savoury pies.

MissAdventure Fri 08-Mar-24 21:54:19

Oh, you've never lived!!
Yes, savoury pies with mash and liqueur.
(Was that made from eel juice, originally? Shudder!)

MissAdventure Fri 08-Mar-24 21:59:02

I don't know what meat it is, inside the pies.
I have the meat free type.
It might be steak, I think.

Chardy Sat 09-Mar-24 08:39:39

GrannyGravy13

I am in the S E, one of my Granny’s always said pardon Mrs Arden, there’s a pussy cat in your garden

This has been passed down the generations and our young GC find it hilarious.

A gran (born late 19th century in South London) used to say exactly that. I'd forgotten. And she passed it in to my mum.

Mojack26 Sat 09-Mar-24 11:07:10

Never heard that saying in my life!🤣Im from Scotland. Ps...Egg and chips