Depraved modern comedy.

Fair2Good, I agree with you. It doesn't matter whether there's a warning and you missed it. It doesn't matter what younger people see when they go looking for it. What does matter I think is that a film which is supposed to be a comedy suitable for mid teens is made by people who think that kind of thing is appropriate. It may well go on and is no one's business if it suits those involved, but I don't feel this and many other shock elements involving swearing violence or sex are necessary in so many things we watch. For me it adds nothing.

LovelyLady

As Grandparents we do have incredible power.
If we all (or most) complained to whatever commission body is responsible for approving this type of behaviour on screen. If folk want to see this type of behaviour then it must be labelled as such. We must not introduce this type of behaviour to our innocent youngsters.
Some may sadly have viewed adult inappropriate films ( this will keep therapists busy for years to come)but we as grandparents have a duty of care. We should contact the appropriate authorities about our children being tricked into seeing non child appropriate films.

I am very sure that my teen is far from innocent, but then he is a tiny bit older.

I don't want him thinking that abusing women, sexually or otherwise, is ever ok though.

Sex is something you explore together as consenting adults.
Children do not need to be exposed to these kind of scenes remember children age 11 plus who are watching may have ADHD ,Autism or other mental illnesses and then what does society do to them when they put in to action what they have seen sometimes using force .We have just seen horrific murders by children on other children .Where did they get the ideas from. As a society we should be protecting and nurturing them.
If film makers could go back to making some comedies or musicals that we can watch as families wouldn't society be in a better place? Our young people have years to investigate and establish their sexualities let them be children as long as possible.

As Grandparents we do have incredible power.
If we all (or most) complained to whatever commission body is responsible for approving this type of behaviour on screen. If folk want to see this type of behaviour then it must be labelled as such. We must not introduce this type of behaviour to our innocent youngsters.
Some may sadly have viewed adult inappropriate films ( this will keep therapists busy for years to come)but we as grandparents have a duty of care. We should contact the appropriate authorities about our children being tricked into seeing non child appropriate films.

I agree Amalegra the same applies to gratuitous swearing. So many programmes designed to shock or as you say push the boundaries. Thank goodness for the 'off' button and a good book.

Such things no longer shock me, they BORE me! It’s as if directors/writers have to include this content to be seen as current, relevant, ‘pushing the boundaries’ etc. Such a lack of imagination is immensely irritating as it will never replace a well constructed drama or interestingly developed characters. Just the same old forgettable dross! Luckily I have buttons on my remote which means I don’t have to watch and I certainly am very careful about what I view with my thirteen year old granddaughter. I’m grateful she’s not into more adult films and the rest just yet!

MayBee70

I watched Oppenheimer (15) with my family last week and have to say I felt quite uncomfortable with the sex scenes given that I was with my teenage grandsons so I can understand where the OP is coming from.

Germanshepherdsmum

I don’t think you should call gay sexual acts perversion, or suggest that the people involved are morally degenerate , nor would I agree that what you describe is likely to corrupt young people, but personally I don’t think what you describe is very suitable for a 15 year old.

I agree with GSM's general point. I can't comment on the 15 year old point as I didn't see it.

The fact that 15 year olds 'have probably seen worse on their phones' doesn't make it right!

I also wish it was possible to 'like' a post.

Agree with you lucky girl, even watching a film on my own makes me cringe when up comes the seemingly obligatory sex scene. I'm not sure what it's even supposed to be for.

MissAdventure

So, would we object to the implied sexual shenanigans, if we felt they were just a step too far?

I’m another who finds sex scenes rather boring. I can’t say I’ve seen anything shocking, to be honest. I’m just not interested in seeing others having sex - as Boy George said, I’d rather have a cup of tea. My point was that I think that ‘depravity’ and ‘pornography’ are probably too strong for something shown in a 15 certificate film on Netflix.

I'm with you on that one. I have no wish to watch others having sex, whether in person or on film. Day to day I have that choice, but on film I do not as it is slotted in whether I like it or not.

I am happy for people to have consensual sex of any kind, but I do not wish to find myself obliged to watch it. Getting half way through an interesting plot then finding that I have to watch this in order to get to the end of the film is mildly irritating; but it is more than that when young people are involved.

100% agree. It is all part of the queering of society. Along with the misogyny of trans ideology. I believe some school children are being taught, in our schools, about buggery, choking and spitting on a (female) partner during sex. It is evil.

I think voyeurism is a perversion.

Germanshepherdsmum

I don’t think you should call gay sexual acts perversion, or suggest that the people involved are morally degenerate , nor would I agree that what you describe is likely to corrupt young people, but personally I don’t think what you describe is very suitable for a 15 year old.

I agree.

So, would we object to the implied sexual shenanigans, if we felt they were just a step too far?

Yes, back in the day if couples were in bed they had to be married and one of them had to have a foot on the floor at all times, I believe.

I suspect there will be rules today, too - what counts as porn won’t come down to opinion. I find it hard to believe that a 15 cert on Netflix will have been pornographic. Awkward to watch with a grandchild maybe, but as I say, IMO that is where personal responsibility comes in.

MissAdventure

There used to be a rule about those things.
The angle of the dangle, I suppose you could say.

There used to be a rule about those things.
The angle of the dangle, I suppose you could say.

I assume that the sex in this 15 certified film was suggested rather than graphic? I’m no expert on pornography, but I think that, for instance, an erect penis would not be allowed.

Cossy, , no I do not put on the same level anal sex and men kissing, what a ridiculous statement.
I think you should read up on all the statistics about anal sex and the life changing effect, even one encounter can have on some ones life. The real danger is a girls anus differ to Mens, they can become incontinent for life, there is no operation to cure it. Some men might not get problems, but no it's not safe and to suggest it is is wrong. Womans Hour had a long programme about it and interviewed youand women, some in early twenties or younger whose lives had been ruined by one encounter.Im sure you can google it. My teenage grandchildren were given all the information and make their own mind up and respect their own bodies or no one else will.
I want my grandchildren safe with all the facts not getting information from porno mags or other sources.

Not every family is like yours Cossy.

I think we are reaping what we sow here. Young people watching/subjecting themselves to this sort of viewing and then we hear of a woman in Rochdale being raped by 3 boys, think one was 12, another 13 and another 14. I was horrified, boys of that age in my day and I am only 67 were still playing Cowboys and Indians.
Society has changed so much and no I wouldn't want to watch scenes like this especially gay sex scenes.

Fair2good, I haven't seen this, but from what you say, I wholeheartedly agree with you. It is yet another very sad sign of how low our society has become on so many levels and I do fear for our youngsters today. Bring back decency.