Life After Death - Mediums, Ghosts, Heaven or Nothing?

Are ministers of religion supposed to educate their flocks, or not?

I don't think it is a "self thing"

I do think some people are much more sensitive to whatever there may be, than others.

My mother swore blind that she saw my father (dead for several years) when she was in a very distressed state after an accident where her car was written off. She said he came across the room and sat beside her.

She was always a hyper-sensitive type anyway (TBH it could make her difficult to live with) but I know personally of 2 cases where she was telepathic over very long distances and knew exact details - at the time, not being ‘wise after the event’ of a family member’s distress.

Her ability could never have been proved under lab conditions, since it only ever happened (AFAIK) when someone close was in some sort of extreme distress.

When ny DD was about 2 we were driving home and passing beside a disused railway line. DD excitedly pointed towards the old railway and said "look at the train!"

I have often wondered about that.

No idea what becomes to us after death but as I don't worry about where I was before birth, I don't worry about afterwards either.

If seeing your dead loved ones now brings comfort. That's lovely.

Many years ago when I was a slip of a girl I worked in one of the old Yorkshire Asylums. It had long since become an NHS hospital but the Victorian buildings remained in use until the 1990s when it closed for good.
Very strange things happened there, that all my scientific education since, and 50+ years of experience still haven't explained.
My mum is dead and had no faith at all but sometimes I feel her close by and I can almost smell Calechè by Hermes but it could be wishful thinking because I miss her.
I grew up on stories in the family about my Irish granny's family having the second sight too.
So maybe I am not an impartial witness.

Thank you skye17 that makes more sense now. You live and learn in life

polomint

Thank you skye17 very interesting although messages from a prophet are from God and messages from a medium are from satan/ devil. How can you tell the difference from one to the other? They are both giving out messages

Thanks polomint.

I can think of a few ways off the top of my head:

- Prophets don’t try to get in touch with the dead.

- Prophets don’t prophesy for money.

- In the Bible, the messages of the prophets often urge people to stop committing particular sins and avoid the judgement of God. Jeremiah, for instance, told the people of Judah that if they kept worshipping false gods and oppressing the poor, they would be invaded and conquered by a cruel foreign power, the Babylonians. I’ve never heard of a medium telling people to turn from sin and turn to God.

- Prophets know that they risk a hostile reaction from the people they speak to. But they don’t let that stop them. They aim to please God rather than people. Jeremiah was put into an empty well. John the Baptist was beheaded for telling King Herod it was wrong for him to take his brother’s wife.

Last year I reported on GN a strange experience I had. We were in Sussex where our son and family live. We had dropped our eldest grandson off at a local football ground. As we drove back through the small town I noticed on the outskirts a small row of shops, one of which was an antiques shop and I turned to DH and said ‘I’ve just seen an antiques shop when we have time can we visit it?.

The following day I dropped my grandson off at school in the same small town. I wasn’t in a hurry so decided to park up and walk to the small row of shops I had seen the day before in order to browse round the antiques shop. When I arrived there I was shocked to find I was on a housing estate and there were no shops 😳

It really upset me as I know what I saw. I hadn’t had alcohol or drugs. I just can’t explain it.

My mother often accurately predicted things, but not me. However last September we were on holiday and I said to DH ‘I think my sister is ill, I do hope I am not starting to predict things like my mum’. 👩 A few hours later my niece text me to say my sister was ill in hospital. !

sometimes I wake through the night and there's a smell of perfume in my room,,and it's not my perfume...also smell cigarette smoke in the house and neither my husband nor I smoke,, smile

I've never seen a ghost, but have heard one, when I was a young girl still at school, our beloved dog died and I was heartbroken, I couldn't eat or sleep I wanted him back. one night when my older sister and I were in bed, (we slept in the same room) we heard a dog barking just outside the window, we got up went to the window and as we did the barking faded away in the distance. 2 or 3 minutes after we were back in bed, the barking started again and again we got up to look out the window, and again the barking faded away..that happened 3 times and we never heard it again. every dog has a different bark, and this one was ours,,,that happened almost 70 years ago and I'm glad my sister was there and heard it too. I truely belive that he came back to let us know that he was still around.

spabbygirl

I believe in an afterlife though I am an active church goer and they frown on such things, I have been helping in Kelmscott Manor, country home of William Morris, l left the staff kitchen & on pulling the door behind me I looked over my shoulder and someone said in my ear 'Boo!!!" There was absolutely no-one around. Others have similar experiences there, but all nice & kind, nothing scary though it is weird cos you never know if you're alone or not.
I think some mediums are great but I guess like anyone they have good days and bad days.
I also believe in an afterlife though have no idea what it is, there is a great true story about a boy called Cameron Macaulay who remembers a past life on Barra in the outer Hebrides an American professor who studies these things came over & went there with him, he said these insights children have stop age around 5. It's in the Daily Mirror and there is a really good you tube video of the visit & he got somethings right.
My mum had an experience at a Devon holiday cottage and she was really strong minded - think Margaret Thatcher but politically opposite! To read it google weird Wiltshire Margells - the name of the cottage. Weird Wiltshire does cover a wider area, it's not a mistake. I'm assuming you can't put links here, but they come up quickly on a google search.

Thank you for the link, fascinating story of your mum and aunts experience in the cottage.

thanks for all your comments on mum's story of Margells, she said she just felt the monk wanted to be alone. She was brave to stay - I wouldn't!!! The Landmark Trust do open it to the public for the say every few years or so so I'll go then - with a cracking big crucifix or something! Not sure how that'll go down with a monk but it'll give me dutch courage at least.

spabbygirl

I believe in an afterlife though I am an active church goer and they frown on such things, I have been helping in Kelmscott Manor, country home of William Morris, l left the staff kitchen & on pulling the door behind me I looked over my shoulder and someone said in my ear 'Boo!!!" There was absolutely no-one around. Others have similar experiences there, but all nice & kind, nothing scary though it is weird cos you never know if you're alone or not.
I think some mediums are great but I guess like anyone they have good days and bad days.
I also believe in an afterlife though have no idea what it is, there is a great true story about a boy called Cameron Macaulay who remembers a past life on Barra in the outer Hebrides an American professor who studies these things came over & went there with him, he said these insights children have stop age around 5. It's in the Daily Mirror and there is a really good you tube video of the visit & he got somethings right.
My mum had an experience at a Devon holiday cottage and she was really strong minded - think Margaret Thatcher but politically opposite! To read it google weird Wiltshire Margells - the name of the cottage. Weird Wiltshire does cover a wider area, it's not a mistake. I'm assuming you can't put links here, but they come up quickly on a google search.

I found it and read it, your Mum was braver than I would have been, I read some interesting stories on The Weird Wiltshire site so thanks for that.👍🏻

Thank you skye17 very interesting although messages from a prophet are from God and messages from a medium are from satan/ devil. How can you tell the difference from one to the other? They are both giving out messages

grannypiper

My husbands eyes flew open during the night, he found his childhoods friend dad sat on the edge of the bed, he said to my DH "i have just come to say cheerio and to ask you to look after that lad of mine, don't let him buy a Moto Guzzi, he will loose money on it. Look after yourself lad, you have turned out alright in the end" My husband looked at the clock it was 05:11. Two hours later my husbands friend called to say that his dad had died, my DH asked at what time, his friend replied 05:12. He hadn't been expected to die.

I like that one ... it's comforting.

Caleo

Many people ho do not believe in life after death , do believe in and trust God .

And many who don't believe in or trust God , do believe in life after death, ghosts and so forth.

Yes, I'd rather believe in something happening now than something allegedly written in the C7th BC.

Trust in God, we can't even trust our own government!

Many people ho do not believe in life after death , do believe in and trust God .

And many who don't believe in or trust God , do believe in life after death, ghosts and so forth.

MissAdventure wrote:
"There must surely be "something", going by all the people who believe they have had something happen, or felt a presence."

I agree, and I don't doubt that the posters experienced what they say they experienced. However the question remains, Did the ghost ,or the foreknowledge that they experienced happen independently of their brains, or were they hallucinating or dreaming?

I mentioned the 'psychic eye' that some people have. I think in babies and young children the eye is open and they can see and hear the spirit world, maybe even remember a previous life. I would not believe that myself but it has happened so many times, you cannot doubt it.

After the age of 5 the eye usually closes, except in some people it remains open in varying degrees. Hence the ability for some people to see and hear the spirit world.

If young children have a natural psychic ability then why it is considered evil?

What I've discovered is that spirits are not allowed to give away certain secrets, so there are some things you cannot ask them. They will not reveal how the spirit world 'works' for instance, or tell you about God. These are things that only spirits know, so you have to wait until your time comes to find the answers.

I have a tiny mental snapshot of being a very young child and walking hand in hand with a woman in a bright floral dress on a lovely summer’s day. Literally just a snapshot. The style of the woman’s dress was indicative of the 1940s. I was born in 1951. The woman was not ‘my’ mother or any other of ‘my’ relations. The dress was not ‘my’ mother’s - she had very few clothes, and nothing so bright. We were walking in a village where I later lived - I can recognise the spot. And she was the mother of the little child in my memory. But not ‘my’ mother. Not something imagined from a film or a picture - I was there.

I've had to stop and come back to this thread because I feel shivers running through me each time. The experiences I'm reading are all too similar for there to be nothing in them. There's a school of thought that "our" bodies are no more than vessels transporting spiritual forms, hence why some very young children can describe previous "lives" and previous "selves". It's as if the energies of the spirits are truly eternal. I am so open minded and love to hear about others' experiences.

I agree with GSM, the article was an interesting read spabbygirl.

Thanks spabby, I found your Mum’s experience quickly through Google. Very interesting and thought-provoking. An excellent read.

I have seen and experienced things, been told things, that really defy explanations. My mind is open on the subject, and would not dismiss any ones experiences. Personally have never come across a charlatan, but was once banned from getting my cards read from a particular reader, as I had to cancel my appointment !! Could say she didn't see that coming !!.

I believe in an afterlife though I am an active church goer and they frown on such things, I have been helping in Kelmscott Manor, country home of William Morris, l left the staff kitchen & on pulling the door behind me I looked over my shoulder and someone said in my ear 'Boo!!!" There was absolutely no-one around. Others have similar experiences there, but all nice & kind, nothing scary though it is weird cos you never know if you're alone or not.
I think some mediums are great but I guess like anyone they have good days and bad days.
I also believe in an afterlife though have no idea what it is, there is a great true story about a boy called Cameron Macaulay who remembers a past life on Barra in the outer Hebrides an American professor who studies these things came over & went there with him, he said these insights children have stop age around 5. It's in the Daily Mirror and there is a really good you tube video of the visit & he got somethings right.
My mum had an experience at a Devon holiday cottage and she was really strong minded - think Margaret Thatcher but politically opposite! To read it google weird Wiltshire Margells - the name of the cottage. Weird Wiltshire does cover a wider area, it's not a mistake. I'm assuming you can't put links here, but they come up quickly on a google search.