Life After Death - Mediums, Ghosts, Heaven or Nothing?

After my DS died tragically at the age of 2 I was so torn as to firstly believe in god in any shape or form, and also heaven. If there was a god why take my son away from me? Eventually I decide there was definitely something, perhaps heaven as I desperately needed to believe he was somewhere and with other deceased loved ones.
As time went on I still felt undecided. Roll on 20 years. Due to unfortunate circumstances my husband and myself had to make the decision to take on our new born GS. Whilst preparing the nursery for his arrival and alone in the house, I found the curtains in the room were tucked up over the curtain rail! No windows were open and I could find no reason why this would happen. I went downstairs thinking there was some logic reason but when I returned to the room the bedding on the cot was turned back as if I had prepared it ready to put my DGS to sleep! There was definitely no way this could have happened logically,. I have since decided it was my DS telling me he was happy I was going to raise our DGS. I had been having very mixed emotions and feeling very overwhelmed and nervous of the unexpected turn of events. It gave me both great comfort and happiness and I became a definite believer.

Can someone please tell me where in the bible it says not to meet with a medium? The Bible mentions prophets quite often so what is the difference between them. Soothsayer are mentioned also

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Can someone please tell me where in the bible it says not to meet with a medium? The Bible mentions prophets quite often so what is the difference between them. Soothsayer are mentioned also

Bible passages:

The Lord said to Moses, “Speak to the entire assembly of Israel and say to them:

…‘Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them.’”
- Leviticus 19.1, 31

A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.
- Leviticus 20.27

[Moses speaks to the Israelites:

When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practises divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord; because of these same detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you.
- Deuteronomy 18.9–12

So Saul died for his breach of faith. He broke faith with the Lord in that he did not keep the command of the Lord, and also consulted a medium, seeking guidance. He did not seek guidance from the Lord.
- 1 Chronicles 10.13–14

[Of Manasseh, King of Judah:]

He sacrificed his own son in the fire, practised divination, sought omens, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the Lord, arousing his anger.
- 2 Kings 21.6

Josiah [a good king of Judah] got rid of the mediums and spiritists, the household gods, the idols and all the other detestable things seen in Judah and Jerusalem. This he did to fulfil the requirements of the law [of God]…
- 2 Kings 23.24

And when they say to you, “Inquire of the mediums and the necromancers who chirp and mutter,” should not a people inquire of their God? Should they inquire of the dead on behalf of the living?
- Isaiah 8.19

The Bible mentions prophets quite often so what is the difference between them.

In the Bible, prophets are the servants of God. They pass on messages from him to the people, sometimes about the future, sometimes not. Any supernatural knowledge they have comes to them from God.

Mediums are not the servants of God: they disobey his command not to inquire of the dead (Deuteronomy 18.11). Any supernatural knowledge they have comes to them from Satan.

I didn’t exist for millions of years before I was born .
I wont exist for millions of years after I’m gone.
The first didn’t bother me ….neither will the latter.

I do believe and have had a couple of experiences that can’t be explained. One happened when I was with a friend and we both saw something.

Wasn't it Carl Sagan who said we are made of "star stuff"? "The cosmos is within us. We are made of star stuff. We are a way for the universe to know itself."

The above is so true. I have studied astrology and it’s nothing to do with fortune telling. We are part of the cosmos and the planets are within all of us. Even Stephen Hawking acknowledged that our hearts contain The Sun and in astrology the sign of Leo is ruled by the sun which in turn rules the heart. Far too complicated to explain here but there is much we don’t understand.

The poster who commented on time not being linear is spot on.

There must surely be "something", going by all the people who believe they have had something happen, or felt a presence.

Or maybe not.

Yes I do believe something goes on, not sure what and probably never will.

I was sat in my lounge, it was about 18 mnths ago, I hadn't been feeling well but this certain morning felt much better so got dressed mad a drink and sat on sofa, just to my left I was looking at some flowers my dad had sent me, I then caught sight of movement to my right. I looked and it was my mum, her head was laying on a pillow and smiling, it was just her head and shoulders, it was like a greyish not quite see through image. It was like she was pretending to be asleep but trying not to laugh (you know when children do it at bedtime, pretending to be asleep)

I was fully awake, feeling better, I hadn't had any medication etc. I was shocked but I know what I saw, no one will ever take that away from me. My mum died just over 3 years ago.

One of the upsetting things I felt was when I visited the funeral home, she did not have a little pillow under her head. It was awful.

I have never seen my DH who died 9 yrs ago, but have felt his presence.

My young gson when he was about 4 announced he was going to the park, his mum said "who with"? he said Grandad B****!

He had never met grandad as had been born after he died.
Gson also used to say he used to live in India.

We can't all be mad!

I think that there are more things in heaven and earth than we can ever know, as the saying goes. My faith tells me there is an afterlife in which I believe although I’ve no idea what form that will take. As regards ghosts/mediums etc I simply don’t know as I’ve never experienced anything like that, nor visited a medium. I think that some people are more spiritually aware/sensitive than others and might not even know it themselves until ‘something’ happens. I would love to say that I am like this, but I don’t think I am. A pity, as I would love to have some sense of my parents being around. Unfortunately, I only get that in infrequent dreams, which I look at as my own mind trying to comfort me.

Flowerette I went to a house party , a man was going to read the "cards" .Well it was a laugh "who can tell the future from cards?" We went into another room and spread out the cards ..After a few mins he stopped and said "I need to use mediumship" yeah right someone told him my mum just died! Then he told me a lady came and stood behind me. Ok ( I didn't see that coming lol ) but then he started talking about her in detail , her life etc.. said he was getting neighbour but also grandma . My husbands gran had lived a few doors away from us . He never mentioned my mum and nobody their would have known about this old lady. I can away feeling much better because if one person came through it means they are all there.

When I was working a group of my staff decided to consult a medium. I managed to persuade them not to and that it was very dangerous. I’m so glad I did. It was before I became a believer in Lord Jesus.

Many years ago my little 2 Yr old grandaughter who could speak very well , walked into the room where her mum and I were sitting and said " This isn't like when I was with my other mummy " . I would have loved to have questioned her but my daughter didn't want to . Too late now she is 13 and of course no memories .

I don't want to sound as if I'm doing a "oh yes me too" . But when my grandson was little we used to walk to the cemetery to place flowers for my husbands gran. He would help clean the stone and a few others too lol. Some one had put Christmas decoration on the grave. One piece took his fancy. Walking way I noticed he was holding it so made him put it back. He toddled over the grass and stood talking. Then said "thank you grandma .bye." when he got back to me he said "grandma said I could have this".

I believe in an afterlife though I am an active church goer and they frown on such things, I have been helping in Kelmscott Manor, country home of William Morris, l left the staff kitchen & on pulling the door behind me I looked over my shoulder and someone said in my ear 'Boo!!!" There was absolutely no-one around. Others have similar experiences there, but all nice & kind, nothing scary though it is weird cos you never know if you're alone or not.
I think some mediums are great but I guess like anyone they have good days and bad days.
I also believe in an afterlife though have no idea what it is, there is a great true story about a boy called Cameron Macaulay who remembers a past life on Barra in the outer Hebrides an American professor who studies these things came over & went there with him, he said these insights children have stop age around 5. It's in the Daily Mirror and there is a really good you tube video of the visit & he got somethings right.
My mum had an experience at a Devon holiday cottage and she was really strong minded - think Margaret Thatcher but politically opposite! To read it google weird Wiltshire Margells - the name of the cottage. Weird Wiltshire does cover a wider area, it's not a mistake. I'm assuming you can't put links here, but they come up quickly on a google search.

I have seen and experienced things, been told things, that really defy explanations. My mind is open on the subject, and would not dismiss any ones experiences. Personally have never come across a charlatan, but was once banned from getting my cards read from a particular reader, as I had to cancel my appointment !! Could say she didn't see that coming !!.

Thanks spabby, I found your Mum’s experience quickly through Google. Very interesting and thought-provoking. An excellent read.

I agree with GSM, the article was an interesting read spabbygirl.

I've had to stop and come back to this thread because I feel shivers running through me each time. The experiences I'm reading are all too similar for there to be nothing in them. There's a school of thought that "our" bodies are no more than vessels transporting spiritual forms, hence why some very young children can describe previous "lives" and previous "selves". It's as if the energies of the spirits are truly eternal. I am so open minded and love to hear about others' experiences.

I have a tiny mental snapshot of being a very young child and walking hand in hand with a woman in a bright floral dress on a lovely summer’s day. Literally just a snapshot. The style of the woman’s dress was indicative of the 1940s. I was born in 1951. The woman was not ‘my’ mother or any other of ‘my’ relations. The dress was not ‘my’ mother’s - she had very few clothes, and nothing so bright. We were walking in a village where I later lived - I can recognise the spot. And she was the mother of the little child in my memory. But not ‘my’ mother. Not something imagined from a film or a picture - I was there.

I mentioned the 'psychic eye' that some people have. I think in babies and young children the eye is open and they can see and hear the spirit world, maybe even remember a previous life. I would not believe that myself but it has happened so many times, you cannot doubt it.

After the age of 5 the eye usually closes, except in some people it remains open in varying degrees. Hence the ability for some people to see and hear the spirit world.

If young children have a natural psychic ability then why it is considered evil?

What I've discovered is that spirits are not allowed to give away certain secrets, so there are some things you cannot ask them. They will not reveal how the spirit world 'works' for instance, or tell you about God. These are things that only spirits know, so you have to wait until your time comes to find the answers.

MissAdventure wrote:
"There must surely be "something", going by all the people who believe they have had something happen, or felt a presence."

I agree, and I don't doubt that the posters experienced what they say they experienced. However the question remains, Did the ghost ,or the foreknowledge that they experienced happen independently of their brains, or were they hallucinating or dreaming?

Many people ho do not believe in life after death , do believe in and trust God .

And many who don't believe in or trust God , do believe in life after death, ghosts and so forth.

Caleo

Many people ho do not believe in life after death , do believe in and trust God .

And many who don't believe in or trust God , do believe in life after death, ghosts and so forth.

Yes, I'd rather believe in something happening now than something allegedly written in the C7th BC.

Trust in God, we can't even trust our own government!

grannypiper

My husbands eyes flew open during the night, he found his childhoods friend dad sat on the edge of the bed, he said to my DH "i have just come to say cheerio and to ask you to look after that lad of mine, don't let him buy a Moto Guzzi, he will loose money on it. Look after yourself lad, you have turned out alright in the end" My husband looked at the clock it was 05:11. Two hours later my husbands friend called to say that his dad had died, my DH asked at what time, his friend replied 05:12. He hadn't been expected to die.

I like that one ... it's comforting.

Thank you skye17 very interesting although messages from a prophet are from God and messages from a medium are from satan/ devil. How can you tell the difference from one to the other? They are both giving out messages

spabbygirl

I believe in an afterlife though I am an active church goer and they frown on such things, I have been helping in Kelmscott Manor, country home of William Morris, l left the staff kitchen & on pulling the door behind me I looked over my shoulder and someone said in my ear 'Boo!!!" There was absolutely no-one around. Others have similar experiences there, but all nice & kind, nothing scary though it is weird cos you never know if you're alone or not.
I think some mediums are great but I guess like anyone they have good days and bad days.
I also believe in an afterlife though have no idea what it is, there is a great true story about a boy called Cameron Macaulay who remembers a past life on Barra in the outer Hebrides an American professor who studies these things came over & went there with him, he said these insights children have stop age around 5. It's in the Daily Mirror and there is a really good you tube video of the visit & he got somethings right.
My mum had an experience at a Devon holiday cottage and she was really strong minded - think Margaret Thatcher but politically opposite! To read it google weird Wiltshire Margells - the name of the cottage. Weird Wiltshire does cover a wider area, it's not a mistake. I'm assuming you can't put links here, but they come up quickly on a google search.

I found it and read it, your Mum was braver than I would have been, I read some interesting stories on The Weird Wiltshire site so thanks for that.👍🏻