Sussex versus Prince of Wales.

Anniebach

Quote Kate1949 Fri 15-Mar-24 15:43:45
'He did not until the marriage had irretrievably broken down,' Well he would say that wouldn't he?

He did say that, you choose to believe newspapers, I have spoken facts

It’s impossible to say that it is fact.

Even if Charles had said that to you personally and directly, it isn’t necessarily true.

How do you know they are facts Annie?

Quote Kate1949 Fri 15-Mar-24 15:43:45
'He did not until the marriage had irretrievably broken down,' Well he would say that wouldn't he?

He did say that, you choose to believe newspapers, I have spoken facts

'He did not until the marriage had irretrievably broken down,' Well he would say that wouldn't he?

Callistemon21

“Yes, she has. She has always been an advocate for women's and girls' rights that's why she was such a welcome addition to The Firm.
Mind you, she needed to have looked no further than her grandmother-in-law for an example of a strong woman.”

“It's a pity that she and Harry just keep blundering on causing stress and unhappiness to others. It can't be making them happy either”

Callistemon21

I agree.

No inside knowledge Annie just reports in the press and from some books which is also, I assume, where the information came from that Diana had a mental illness and had affairs. No inside knowledge there either.

Cossy

I find it incredulous that the same people who shun the media also believe everything printed when it suits their agenda!

Unless there are people on here who know ANY member of the RF personally I take everything I read about any of them with a pinch of salt.

Obviously once a book is published or an interview conducted this casts a different light on things.

The Duchess of Sussex has always cared about humanity, referenced by clips from videos when she was quite a young girl. The Duke of Sussex is still very active, where allowed, with anything attached to the services.

I think they are both damaged people, who’ve been very badly advised and are in a bad place. Whether this is entirely their fault is in some ways irrelevant.

The Prince and Princess of Wales, are humans, like the Sussexes, all of them have the same flaws we all do and make similar mistakes and have family feuds, just like the rest of us.

It’s really none of our business and frankly I wish them all well and hope, in time, they can heal their rift.

The Duchess of Sussex has always cared about humanity, referenced by clips from videos when she was quite a young girl.

Yes, she has. She has always been an advocate for women's and girls' rights that's why she was such a welcome addition to The Firm.
Mind you, she needed to have looked no further than her grandmother-in-law for an example of a strong woman.

It's a pity that she and Harry just keep blundering on causing stress and unhappiness to others. It can't be making them happy either ☹

Cossy Fri 15-Mar-24 14:18:29
Anniebach
Not inside knowledge, so strange, not one photograph of them
meeting in that time, nothing in the press, much about Kanga
but nothing about Camilla, Diana’s sisters and father would have known surely but didn’t tell her , most strange
Our now King has admitted he carried on seeing Camilla? I don’t think there was a mystery! Don’t think Diana had any kind of close relationship with either parent or step parent and they were probably all relived their daughter made “a good

He did not, he said ‘not until the marriage had irretrievably broken down.
Her sister who had dated Charles didn’t know, her other sister married to Robert Fellows didn’t know? So many in that circle
didn’t know, most strange

Have NOT!!! Sorry brain works quicker than fingers (or not at all!)

CoolCoco

Where’s all the female solidarity we were urged when discussing C? Ooh I know, it’s all one way.

I have criticised ANY member of the RF, I think H&M made some bad choices, but from what I’ve seen they’re great parents.

I think many of us don’t understand the life she had before her marriage to Harry or the life she had afterwards, or even her life now!

Don’t think she’s toxic or evenly, I don’t think W&C are perfect, but not are they bad people, neither was Diana.

Where’s all the female solidarity we were urged when discussing C? Ooh I know, it’s all one way.

SusieK

^She had a serious eating disorder, once (allegedly) threw herself downstairs, clearly had quite pronounced depression and anxiety. These are all signs of having a mental health condition^

Yes, her mental health (aka her reaction to the unhappy situation she found herself in) manifested it in - allegedly - such ways. As perhaps such treatment might affect many of us?

It’s not a criticism of her! In many ways I think most of her life seemed awful!

In response to Maddyone I am sorry: my post was confusing.
I was likening the behaviour of a neighbouring family split by divorce to that of the Royal Family, in that the grandchildren turned against their grandparents of whom they were previously very fond, following the introduction of the new partner. I think I was trying to make the point that it does happen all the time, and is distressing, but most people don't publicise it or trade on it.

She had a serious eating disorder, once (allegedly) threw herself downstairs, clearly had quite pronounced depression and anxiety. These are all signs of having a mental health condition

Yes, her mental health (aka her reaction to the unhappy situation she found herself in) manifested it in - allegedly - such ways. As perhaps such treatment might affect many of us?

Anniebach

Not inside knowledge, so strange, not one photograph of them
meeting in that time, nothing in the press, much about Kanga
but nothing about Camilla, Diana’s sisters and father would have known surely but didn’t tell her , most strange

Our now King has admitted he carried on seeing Camilla? I don’t think there was a mystery! Don’t think Diana had any kind of close relationship with either parent or step parent and they were probably all relived their daughter made “a good marriage” Oh the irony!

Not inside knowledge, so strange, not one photograph of them
meeting in that time, nothing in the press, much about Kanga
but nothing about Camilla, Diana’s sisters and father would have known surely but didn’t tell her , most strange

Anniebach

Inside knowledge Kate1949 , or the press, or ‘there were three
in the marriage’ ‘ don’t mention the other men, wonder why

Inside knowledge? Common knowledge, more like!

Inside knowledge Kate1949 , or the press, or ‘there were three
in the marriage’ ‘ don’t mention the other men, wonder why

SusieK

“Anniebach
I agree Cossy Diana was spiteful, but she was suffering with
mental illness which can truly affect emotions.
Not sure I agree with ‘suffering with mental illness’, but were it true, it doesn’t seem to engender any sympathy?!

I think she had a privileged, but perhaps loveless, upbringing, and responded to Charles supposed affection. He then seemed to make it very clear that he did not love her, and so she became unhappy / frustrated ( not the same as mental illness)“

SusieK

She had a serious eating disorder, once (allegedly) threw herself downstairs, clearly had quite pronounced depression and anxiety. These are all signs of having a mental health condition.

Kate1949

I'd be pretty spiteful if I married a man who used me as a baby making machine while being in love with someone else.

Indeed!

Kate1949

I'd be pretty spiteful if I married a man who used me as a baby making machine while being in love with someone else.

Me too!

Anniebach

I agree Cossy Diana was spiteful, but she was suffering with
mental illness which can truly affect emotions.

Not sure I agree with ‘suffering with mental illness’, but were it true, it doesn’t seem to engender any sympathy?!

I think she had a privileged, but perhaps loveless, upbringing, and responded to Charles supposed affection. He then seemed to make it very clear that he did not love her, and so she became unhappy / frustrated ( not the same as mental illness)

I'd be pretty spiteful if I married a man who used me as a baby making machine while being in love with someone else.

Anniebach

I agree Cossy Diana was spiteful, but she was suffering with
mental illness which can truly affect emotions.

Yes, I agree

Difference between the photographs, only one professional photographer