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Urmstongran Fri 29-Mar-24 21:02:41

I know they are very rare but there’s a story and photographs in the Daily Mail today about a marriage between one twin and a man.

I found myself unable to read the full story. It really unsettled me as I found myself thinking if I were one I’d feel quite panicky. As if I’d like to run away. But they share the rest of one body. Just two heads. They look happy, are 34, smiling for wedding photo fully made up and pretty.

Still, I felt properly panicky thinking how life must be for them. What if they fall out and one irritates the hell out of the other? What if one needs sedation for a dental extraction? What does the other do? You’d have to go along with everything. And then my worst thought - what if one dies? What happens to the other one?

I will ruminate on this it has really bothered me.

Cossy Thu 26-Dec-24 10:26:46

BlueBelle

But why on earth is anyone on here unsettled by it? It’s not our life. These two ladies have been joined since they were born they know no other way of life so to them this is their normal. They have worked out how to do many things over the years …go to the toilet together , have a bath, wash their hair, even get dressed what if one wants a blue dress and one a red one ? Look at menstruation problems they ve had to deal with. Medical problems and procedures Everything is done differently to how we can imagine but they’ve sorted it, they are 34 years old so have had plenty of time to work it all out

Why do we have to imagine what’s happening in their bed it’s nothing to do with us ( do we need to imagine what’s going on in the sex life of other people) they’re happy why would you feel unsettled about somebody elses happiness , it’s just not our business to imagine the ins and outs They have obviously worked out how to do so many things since birth and this is just another

Be truthful you’re all ‘unsettled’ because it involves SEX 🤣

I think you’re right, the SEX part is a bit unsettling, but I find their whole lives quite unsettling. More because I simply cannot imagine living that way. Bathing, toileting, dressing - all seem difficult.

I’m happy for them if they are all happy.

ixion Thu 26-Dec-24 09:56:48

She may be a film buff? 😉

NotSpaghetti Thu 26-Dec-24 06:49:10

So has she been cooking???
🤔

pascal30 Wed 25-Dec-24 16:12:09

BlueBelle

Or is it a fruit Pascal ? 😉

I knew someone would spot that Bluebelle!!! Happy Christmas

BlueBelle Wed 25-Dec-24 16:07:49

Or is it a fruit Pascal ? 😉

pascal30 Wed 25-Dec-24 15:19:53

transformed into a vegetable..

Dickens Wed 25-Dec-24 15:17:03

NotSpaghetti

Oh, where IS Urmstongran?
She used to be here quite a lot.

... she is close by - very grin

NotSpaghetti Wed 25-Dec-24 12:27:31

Oh, where IS Urmstongran?
She used to be here quite a lot.

Dickens Wed 25-Dec-24 11:49:22

FriedGreenTomatoes2

From someone called Urmstongran. 🤣

Never 'erd of 'er 🤣🤣🤣
xx

Caleo Wed 25-Dec-24 11:44:29

I know it's an old thread revived. However the question about selves is still important, especially today when Xians are celebrating universal love.

Caleo Wed 25-Dec-24 11:41:36

Urmstongran, are you unsettled about conjoined twins because you are concerned about whether the twins are one self or two selves ?

Shinamae Wed 25-Dec-24 11:20:50

FriedGreenTomatoes2

From someone called Urmstongran. 🤣

Hmmmmm…… I don’t see her about anymore 😜😂

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 25-Dec-24 11:12:43

From someone called Urmstongran. 🤣

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 25-Dec-24 11:12:20

A thread from 9 months ago.

MadamCaptain Wed 25-Dec-24 10:43:14

I know this is a little bit off topic (still on topic of conjoined twins) but does anyone remember the name of the conjoined twins born in Australia years ago who were craniopagus? They were joined at the head in an unusual way like back to back and upside down. I can't remember their names and when I did several google searches it only came up with Alyssa and Bethany Nolan, who aren't the ones I'm thinking of. But the Nolan twins were born in the same hospital (in Brisbane I think) and amazingly also craniopagus conjoined twins. The ones I'm thinking of were born before the Nolan twins, maybe a year or so before them. They were successfully separated but I remember reading that one died about 2 years later. I think the twins I'm thinking of were born maybe in the early 2000s or even late 90s.

lemsip Sat 30-Mar-24 18:09:40

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb2L693pka0

this is really worth a watch..

these are happy girls.

fancythat Sat 30-Mar-24 17:48:17

From what little I have read about it, they seem to have worked through the issues well. Along with their mother[cant remember reading about dad].

JaneJudge Sat 30-Mar-24 17:44:17

It is the 'othering' of people with disabilities I find uncomfortable. I have been quite open about it on various threads so it isn't a secret and I'm not being spiteful. I think sometimes people post without thinking through the implications of what they are saying.

We have no idea how the sisters deal with any of their issues other than what we have been told. The leap towards what happens when they have sex (which they may not have anyway, we honestly don't know) quite crude

I'd rather not engage in a negative exchange.I'm just being honest about how I feel

RosiesMaw Sat 30-Mar-24 17:24:23

I agree sodapop. There has been some really quite callous posts on Gransnet just lately

I’d like to know what specifically you regard as callous?
Pragmatic, certainly but not callous.

Dickens Sat 30-Mar-24 14:16:00

Urmstongran

I suppose they share a level of intimacy impossible for us and we have a level of privacy unimaginable for them.

... in a nutshell URMS.

That need most (I assume) of us have - for a quiet space in which to just think and be...

When there were just the two of them they must have had a degree of 'separateness' where they could each, by mutual agreement and recognition of the need, just be themselves. But a third person alters the whole dynamic.

JaneJudge Sat 30-Mar-24 13:52:34

sodapop

Can't believe some of the comments on here. These ladies have learned to live with the restrictions their condition imposes on them and are having a as full and happy a life as they can. It's not for us to speculate about their life.
grandmattie I find your post quite unpleasant.

I agree sodapop. There has been some really quite callous posts on Gransnet just lately

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 30-Mar-24 13:47:14

RosiesMaw

@ Shelflife I do not for a moment think GM’s “Ugh” was anything more than sympathetic repulsion at the surviving twin having to carry the dead sister until she too died.
Just as I shudder when I hear of an expectant mum having to carry a baby who has died in utero until it can be delivered-and indeed to go through a vaginal delivery without the hope of a baby at the end of her process.
I think you misjudged her comment.

I entirely agree with your interpretation of GrandMattie’s post - and the analogy of the death of one conjoined twin to the terrible ordeal of a mother whose baby dies in the womb - a harrowing experience which one of my business partners went through.

Urmstongran Sat 30-Mar-24 12:47:50

I suppose they share a level of intimacy impossible for us and we have a level of privacy unimaginable for them.

Urmstongran Sat 30-Mar-24 12:44:19

^ I think these girls could possibly be parted if one died, but I'm not entirely sure^

I doubt it. They have one arm each - but no feeling in the arm of the opposite side apparently - have their own heart, stomach but from the waist down it is all just one body. I do not see separation ever being possible because of the complexity.

maddyone Sat 30-Mar-24 11:50:15

I imagine most women who were carrying conjoined twins in the past probably died. They wouldn’t have been able to give birth naturally and Caesarian births weren’t very common.