Aintree Marred By Drunken Brawling On Ladies Day

People can be rich and move in celebrity circles yet still be common.

Urmstongran

^My personal definition of common is that of having no respect for one’s surroundings, other people, devoid of all manners, and absolutely no idea how to behave and/or dress in a way fit for the occasion you are attending^

Hey GG13 look at this, yesterday! Wowzer. I thought it ‘inappropriate’ (too much skin exposed) for a dinner - never mind the White House! What do you think?

“ Lauren Sánchez chose a gown that bucked tradition for White House state dinners.

The 54-year-old journalist and philanthropist stepped out with fiancé Jeff Bezos, 60, for a state dinner honoring Japan's Prime Minister Fumio Kishida and his wife, Yuko. For the affair on Wednesday, April 10, Sánchez wore a revealing red corset gown that stood out among the conservatively dressed crowd. (The White House did not respond to a request for comment on dress codes but typical state dinner dress code is black tie.)

The $2,300 Rasario dress features an off-the-shoulder neckline and structured corset bodice with sheer lace at the abdomen.”

Thanks for this urmston. Much as I dislike loud drunken fighting folks, this image puts snobbery about common people right into perspective
Imagine going to a White House event looking like this

Common people, nouveau riche! My mother's just got out of her coffin, how she loved to be a snob but she was really just aspirational middle class. Hoi polloi was another favourite word. A day at the races has always been popular, a chance to dress up, have a few drinks, scream and shout, get lucky, get broke and of course, a few people will forget it's bad form to scrap in public places! It's always been like that. I was just pleased to see horses and riders were all ok in the Grand National.

This is,certainly, nothing new. I grew up in a town with one of the major racecourses. Most weekends we'd frequent the pubs in the town centre. On race days we wouldn't bother, too much trouble. This was late 70s,early 80s.

Urmstongran

Exactly why I didn’t put a thread up this year on the Grand National.

At least this year they’ve put in even more safety measures. I completely understand peoples anxieties around the horses and why they feel it’s a cruel and awful sport. I grew up riding and around horses and loved riding. Horses have accidents in all kinds of places, in their fields, whilst out being ridden nowhere near racetracks and in show jumping, and the majority of owners, trainers and jockeys adore these beautiful racehorses and treat them well. There’s very strict rules around whip control too.

Having said all that, I do completely understand those who hate it and their reasons.

Aintree, like all horse and dog racing, is marred by the deaths of these beautiful animals just because people want to gamble. To think that the last moments of these animals as they lie dying in agony is in front of a baying drunken mob is heartbreaking. Time for a ban on these so-called sports.

Germanshepherdsmum

That makes two of us then. 😁

I completely agree!

I think it’s absolutely disgraceful! We do like horse racing, but completely and utterly understand those who dislike it and understand their reasons.

This drunken and totally inappropriate behaviour absolutely ruins the day for seasoned race goers and it’s normally groups of men and women who go on coaches, get drunk on the way and aren’t there to watch the horses but simply see it as another drunk fest. No idea how to behave properly!

DH and I used to go to Ayr Racing nearly fifty years ago, when we lived down there. We even took the children.

There were drunks even then, so not a new phenomenon.

I love looking at the outfits.

Can I creep in here and say that I love the loud, upfront women at Aintree. They seem to embody the spirit of Liverpool.

I think that 'common' is a horrid way to describe people - reminiscent of my mum and Mrs Bucket. People are people.

I find the standard of dress imo at events like this, has no style or elegance. Gone are the days when women like Audrey Hepburn and Grace Kelly were the epitome of elegance.

Sadly some young women today think the more revealing is more appealing. I could weep for the woman, whose name I don’t know, appears to have been coerced by her partner to wear absolutely nothing except a see through net outfit. She is like a sad Stepford Wife. Her parents must be horrified and sad.

BlueBelle

I HATE these horse races with a vengeance why on earth do stupid people, yes they are stupid, want to pay loads of money to dress up to see an animal whipped into a frenzy of running so fast that it may get killed with absolutely no choice and don’t someone come back and tell me they love it
I believe all horse racing is cruel and everything that goes along with the horse racing fraternity
It needs to be BANNED
People are laughing and drinking themselves into yah yah oblivion while a beautiful creature is shot dead
There is a lot more wrong with these races that rich hooligans

And I m not a horsey person never been near one in my life

Absolutely agree. Well said.

Too much drink, it doesn't matter whether it’s Champagne or Guinness is always going to fuel fights, one wrong word and it all kicks off.
3 yrs ago I was invited by a friend to go to Ascot, ( they had a spare ticket) so off we went in a mini bus 10 of us. They had a few wins so plenty of drink, I don’t drink but enjoyed myself, even had a winner, when it was time to go home I was the only sober one!. No problem I don’t mind driving, all was fine until half way along the M40 when 2 of the women started fighting in the bus, thankfully we were close to the services so I pulled in parked up, took the keys and had a coffee.
15 mins later they came to find me and it was very quiet on the bus for the rest of the journey. I did get an apology but they were worse than a bus load of rugby fans!.

Sago

Kate1949

What is 'common' exactly?

The opposite of posh?
Both dreadful words.

But we all know what ‘common’ and ‘posh’ mean.

I HATE these horse races with a vengeance why on earth do stupid people, yes they are stupid, want to pay loads of money to dress up to see an animal whipped into a frenzy of running so fast that it may get killed with absolutely no choice and don’t someone come back and tell me they love it
I believe all horse racing is cruel and everything that goes along with the horse racing fraternity
It needs to be BANNED
People are laughing and drinking themselves into yah yah oblivion while a beautiful creature is shot dead
There is a lot more wrong with these races that rich hooligans

And I m not a horsey person never been near one in my life

JenniferEccles. 2 horses died on Friday which was the first day of the race. The event has an appalling record of equine deaths and is a yearly spectacle of blood lust fuelled only by money. I would have thought this itself epitomised the height of wrongness in a so called civilised society.

Being drunk anywhere is wrong, even in private.

I thought it was said that no horses were injured at Aintree this year.

GrannyGravy13

The bottom line is, being drunk and disorderly, along with brawling in public is just wrong…

So is killing horses for fun and money.

Just back from Liverpool, not Aintree 🐎
Had a fabulous time, we travelled there and back on the train with race goers.
The ladies looked lovely, men looked really smart .
Plenty having post race drinks in Liverpool and no trouble, just people enjoying themselves, lovely atmosphere.

What I would say is, no coats, not even a wrap ! 🥶.
Blokes mostly suits with waistcoats , so no shivering for them.

The bottom line is, being drunk and disorderly, along with brawling in public is just wrong…

Well add me. Is that 9?

She is isn’t she?
My late mum would’ve loved to have gone to ‘Dollywood’. She mentioned it a time or two. Sadly I couldn’t afford to take her.

Urmstongran we have a what would Dolly do family saying such a wonderful role model.

Exactly why I didn’t put a thread up this year on the Grand National.

An earlier poster was talking about the lack of a moral compass in society. Does that apply to the carnage on the track as well? Two horses dead so far and 65 since 2000, a spectacle that people cheer and place money on. What was that about a moral compass? I'd rather see the grown, drunk men beat each other to a pulp, at least they have a choice.