Prince Harry will not meet the King during UK visit.

Families, eh?
My dear old Mum would have said they need their heads knocking together.
Definitely Meghan,'s fault tho'!

Everything that Harry and Megan have said in books and on film are recorded for posterity. They deliberately trashed the family's reputation and made millions out of it. Most of us have family issues from time to time, but they will be mainly in private, not splashed all over the media for ever. When trust in a person is completely destroyed, how can anyone put it back together?
How very painful for William and Kate as well as the King.

Harry was only in the country briefly on his way to Nigeria, the king has only just resumed his duties outside of the palace, it's no wonder they can't fit in a meeting. I wish people would stop speculating about the whys and wherefores of everything Harry does. Who knows, they may be in daily contact by phone or text, or they may never speak to each other again. I just people would leave them alone.

My take on this is the only people who were there when the falling out took place were the people involved. Any or all of them could be lying or telling the truth. The newspapers cannot be sure either. I thought Harry's statement about the lack of meeting was respectfully worded at least and quite likely to be true.

As for the newspapers making a hoo-ha about him hugging his uncle, well what can possibly be wrong with a man hugging his uncle in private, public, or anywhere. The royals are often photographed hugging members of their family. The whole thing is sad and not made any better by us drawing up sides and suggesting acts are malicious when they may not be,

Cambsnan

You forgive your children whatever!

Actually, no. There are some things which are unforgivable. Also, if there is no sign of remorse from the person committing the offence, then why would they expect forgiveness from the victim?

Thank you JaneJudge.
It’s not easy to make such a decision, but sometimes there seems little choice.

Cambsnan
We don’t know whether Charles has forgiven Harry or not. He may well have forgiven him but find meeting with him too stressful, given that any conversation could be reported to the press immediately, or put into a new book or Netflix series.
Please read my (long) post on the previous page and you might then be able to understand how certain behaviours can affect family members.

As I said before walk a mile in my shoes

Cambsnan

You forgive your children whatever!

We don't know if Charles has forgiven Harry or not. He may still love his son but trust has gone. Where there is no trust a relationship will suffer.

maddyone, I think you made the right decision

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I think that the King, quite rightly, would be very worried that every aspect of any meeting and conversation would quite swiftly form a major part of Harry’s next interview or Netflix series.

With the easily proven dozens of lies told during the Oprah interview (albeit many by Ginge’s wife, Whinge) and those in his book ‘Spare’, I would think that His Majesty has every reason to be cautious and wary.

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If the Telegraph says it, it must be true 🥱

You forgive your children whatever!

Glorianny “And yes I know he has cancer, but illness does not turn people into saints”

You’re right - no more than Harry and Meghan’s PTSD/mental health issues do so either, but they seem to get a free pass when it suits some!

They may well have visited in the early days but I’m not sure Beatrice and Eugenie are so enamoured these days with Harry after his book comments on their father and 3 Spencers out of around 20 doesn’t count as a show of strength in my book!

What of Diana meeting her true love 3 years after her marriage, not social media, she said so.

Don't care..Harry's made his bed ...so...

Only from Harry, Daddima

Harry's truth is not necessarily the absolute truth.

sazz1

William was rude and nasty about Megan even tried to talk Harry out of marrying her. Knocked his brother over when he defended her, so a violent person. Charles ruined Diana's life, didn't love her and married for breeding. Harry is an ex veteran with mental health problems so I think it's a disgusting way to treat him. Charles didn't want to even see him or offer him a room in any of the Royal buildings so he had to stay in a hotel. Rotten family afraid of the public finding out how awful they really are.

Wow! Rather a lot of assumptions there surely? Didn’t Harry say William told him to take it slowly rather than ‘trying to talk him out of it’? Was the necklace breaking incident because Harry was defending his wife against ‘ rude and nasty comments’I don’t know? What were these comments, do you know? Where did you get the ‘fact’ that Charles ‘didn’t want to see him’? Or the ‘fact’ that he didn’t offer Harry a room?

Glorianny Charles showed his true colours when a pen leaked and Camilla had to step in calm him down and sort it out.

His mother had just died for goodness sake !!!

I do love to see the posts now about Charles. His publicity team have played a blinder.
A spoilt indecisive moaner, who blamed mummy for being distant, daddy for being a bully, was spoiled by his grandmother, married a girl much younger than him he didn't care for just to produce an heir. Kept another married woman as a close confident (mistress?). Oh I could go on.
But what's the point.
Charles showed his true colours when a pen leaked and Camilla had to step in calm him down and sort it out. Just like a mother would.
Now he won't see his son.
And yes I know he has cancer, but illness does not turn people into saints

Those of us who have had cancer ... and I am one of them ... know that we need to stay as stress-free as possible to improve our recovery.

I would imagine Charles does not at the moment feel up to a difficult possibly antagonistic meeting with Harry, and the worry that Harry can't be trusted to keep anything at all confidential.

................Any thread on H and M runs and runs and keeps gransnet current or it would fold.

I offered a room to my sister when our mother was dying and look how that turned out!
We cannot judge Charles and William for their private decisions about how they deal with Harry.

As the saying goes walk a mile in my shoes

RosiesMaw

sazz1

William was rude and nasty about Megan even tried to talk Harry out of marrying her. Knocked his brother over when he defended her, so a violent person. Charles ruined Diana's life, didn't love her and married for breeding. Harry is an ex veteran with mental health problems so I think it's a disgusting way to treat him. Charles didn't want to even see him or offer him a room in any of the Royal buildings so he had to stay in a hotel. Rotten family afraid of the public finding out how awful they really are.

Oh dear Sazzi been reading the book have you?

Swallowed hook, link and sinker 😀

Yes, we have to respect anyone who feels they need to distance themselves from certain family members for their own health and peace of mind.
Especially when those family members have proved their toxicity and utter dislike very publicly.

It doesn’t matter who is flawed or who is not flawed. What matters is the way people find their way through difficult times and if that includes having little to do with a family member, that is their choice, and they are allowed to make that choice.