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Prince Harry will not meet the King during UK visit.

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Urmstongran Tue 07-May-24 14:16:27

Seems a bit harsh? All that way too. He landed in the UK a few hours ago. Without Meghan and the children.

From the Telegraph just now:

“ The Duke of Sussex will not meet the King this week, the Telegraph can reveal.

Prince Harry, 39, landed in London on Tuesday morning and had made no secret of his hopes to see his father during his visit.

But a spokesperson for the Duke said: “In response to the many inquiries and continued speculation on whether or not The Duke will meet with his father while in the UK this week, it unfortunately will not be possible due to His Majesty’s full programme.

“The Duke of course is understanding of his father’s diary of commitments and various other priorities and hopes to see him soon.”

I just think if the King doesn't ’find time’ to see his son then Harry might well just think ‘sod it’ next time/if he comes over.

I know Harry bad mouthed the family in his book ‘Spare’ but still …

What do you think?

Callistemon21 Wed 08-May-24 12:31:34

Yes, I know but it was wartime and politicians could over-ride any family feelings.

Here they all are in 1909 at Osborne House.
Some of my family worked there.

Smileless2012 Wed 08-May-24 12:31:04

German people among others who were already living and working in the UK were interned during WW1, so I can understand why it would have been an issue for Russian Tsar and his family to have been allowed to come.

A terrible tragedy for George V to have had to live with.

Grammaretto Wed 08-May-24 12:25:07

Yes I suppose that would have been a problem Callistemon if the
monarchy was threatened.

But as for disliking the Tzarina, what about the Queen? May of Teck was the daughter of a German. Kaiser Bill was Queen Victoria's favourite grandson. Most of the RF were German as I often tell my German visitors.

NotSpaghetti Wed 08-May-24 12:24:57

Anniebach

Her 50 jars of strawberry jam was made from strawberries in
her garden, that’s a lot of strawberries

They were, it seems, made when there weren't any strawberries... however - if they are her fruit she maybe made the jam last strawberry season (or from her frozen fruit) and taken a while to create the labels. Apparently she hasn't bought the URL which is strange.

I think 1kg strawberries will make 4 ordinary jars. Her jars look to be quite small so she may get 5 per kilo.
If so that's only 10kg fruit.

I don't know why anyone doubts 50 jars though. ...

Callistemon21 Wed 08-May-24 11:46:53

Grammaretto

The RF are not like the rest of us. However we try to understand them and explain away their imperfections, they are a different species.

I remember reading about the plight of the Russian Tzar's family back in 1917. Tzar Nicholas was first cousin to King George V (they looked very alike)
But yet George refused to offer them asylum. The Russian cousins were all executed.

I think they are like the rest of us in that they wanted to give sanctuary to their cousins, but political intervention prevented them from doing so.
The British people generally disliked the Russian Tsar and particularly disliked his German wife; this was during WW1.

In fact, I doubt many ordinary British people would have been allowed to bring German relatives over here at that time either.

nanna8 Wed 08-May-24 10:42:55

RosiesMaw

nanna8

The alarming thing is that the information is presented as ‘fact’ not ‘speculation’ . Of course it won’t be denied by the palace and they know that.

But you despite your protestations, are spreading this gossip, can’t you see that?

What on earth are you on about? I didn’t say what it was at all. Get real and pull your head in.

eazybee Wed 08-May-24 10:40:10

There was much known about Edward, Prince of Wales, at the time but not publicised in the British Press He expressed socialist views, certainly, 'something must be done' but did nothing, returning to his life of drunkeness, womanising, laziness and extravagance. His desire to avoid the crown was matched only by the desire of the Royal family and the Government to see him go.

RosiesMaw Wed 08-May-24 10:38:04

nanna8

The alarming thing is that the information is presented as ‘fact’ not ‘speculation’ . Of course it won’t be denied by the palace and they know that.

But you despite your protestations, are spreading this gossip, can’t you see that?

Grammaretto Wed 08-May-24 10:37:55

The RF are not like the rest of us. However we try to understand them and explain away their imperfections, they are a different species.

I remember reading about the plight of the Russian Tzar's family back in 1917. Tzar Nicholas was first cousin to King George V (they looked very alike)
But yet George refused to offer them asylum. The Russian cousins were all executed.

Callistemon21 Wed 08-May-24 10:29:02

Glorianny

Callistemon21

I've always wondered about the Hitler connection and who was really behind it. I suspect Edward (who was quite a socialist in his youth) was as seduced by the prospect of financial stability as many Germans were. The poverty he saw in working class Britain in the 1930s shocked him.

Yes, I doubt Wallis would have gone off on her own to meet Hitler, Edward was keen too.
It showed a lack of judgement which would not have been a good thing in a Head of State.

There was a widespread belief that Hitler would be good for Germany and would stabilize it. His actions against communists, socialists and even Jews were seen as desirable. Antisemitism was common then, and the establishment feared socialism. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. We shouldn't accept the chosen whipping boy in the RF at any time. It's never that simple.

We shouldn't accept the chosen whipping boy in the RF at any time.

This particular boy will keep seeking publicity and laying himself open to ridicule, though. It's as if he pressed a self-destruct button and can't deviate from that path.
It's very sad.

Sparklefizz Wed 08-May-24 10:27:35

The woman is a media car crash and has a serious problem with running her mouth without thinking of the consequences. Ditto with all her other proven lies

Her blood family have learnt all this the hard way PuddyCat (love your name by the way smile )

PuddyCat Wed 08-May-24 10:20:48

Even after she had made false allegations on television regarding someone in the royal family making racist remarks about Archie, she then wrote to Charles that she didn't intend to accuse the royal family member of racism, but instead wanted to discuss unconscious bias within the royal family. A bit late to have that conversation after you've just announced to the world that your in laws are racist bigots. She was apparently dissatisfied with the response she got from the King. The woman is a media car crash and has a serious problem with running her mouth without thinking of the consequences. Ditto with all her other proven lies.

Anniebach Wed 08-May-24 10:18:45

Antisemitism is common now

Glorianny Wed 08-May-24 10:15:18

Callistemon21

^I've always wondered about the Hitler connection and who was really behind it. I suspect Edward (who was quite a socialist in his youth) was as seduced by the prospect of financial stability as many Germans were. The poverty he saw in working class Britain in the 1930s shocked him.^

Yes, I doubt Wallis would have gone off on her own to meet Hitler, Edward was keen too.
It showed a lack of judgement which would not have been a good thing in a Head of State.

There was a widespread belief that Hitler would be good for Germany and would stabilize it. His actions against communists, socialists and even Jews were seen as desirable. Antisemitism was common then, and the establishment feared socialism. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. We shouldn't accept the chosen whipping boy in the RF at any time. It's never that simple.

Daddima Wed 08-May-24 10:09:47

Anniebach

Like making strawberry jam , can’t remember mummy speaking of jam making

Obviously she will have been making her presence felt and sending messages to M to nurture the souls of the downtrodden with jam butties.

maddyone Wed 08-May-24 10:04:57

I don’t believe a word that comes out of her mouth, about jam, strawberries, or anything else. Too many things she has said has been proven to be lies.

Estrangement hurts run deep. I’m estranged from my only sister. She has said far too many horrible hurtful things for me to ever forgive her. I hosted her and did everything for her when our mother died and she actually behaved herself, but as soon as the funeral was over she reverted to type and started making horrible accusations about me. And so we are estranged again. I imagine that Charles feels much the same as I do, basically it’s too painful to open that box again. Love isn’t enough under such an onslaught, personal survival kicks in. I still care about my sister, but I realise she’ll never change and it’s too painful to be with her.

Anniebach Wed 08-May-24 09:56:42

Her 50 jars of strawberry jam was made from strawberries in
her garden, that’s a lot of strawberries

Esmay Wed 08-May-24 09:55:50

King Charles has many duties and is battling cancer -neither is he that young .
I imagine him to be still coming to terms with the changes in his life and frankly : why would he want to see Prince Harry ?
He has denounced the Royal family in his books and in TV interviews .
I wouldn't either .
I'm sure that they will be reconciled one day but not until the dust settles .

maddyone Wed 08-May-24 09:52:36

I get my strawberry jam from M+S or Sainsbury’s, although occasionally if I go to Waitrose I pick up the Duchy Original one. I like the Bonne Mamam one very much too. I don’t need any over priced jam from Meghan, who most certainly didn’t make it. If anyone is daft enough to buy it, I feel sorry for them for swallowing the hype.

Anniebach Wed 08-May-24 09:39:51

Like making strawberry jam , can’t remember mummy speaking of jam making

Daddima Wed 08-May-24 09:34:26

RosiesMaw

nanna8

What we hear here is that it isn’t prostate cancer. I’m not going to repeat what is said because it may be wrong ,suffice to say it is serious. Sometimes they block information in the UK for obvious reasons.

This is still spreading unsubstantiated gossip though.
The foreign media can speculate all they like -and do- I remember the German press coming up with all sorts of garbage about the Queen 50 or 60 years ago (eg Philip was not Edwards father) -such idle and destructive speculation should be treated with the contempt it deserves.

I agree. I think the days when foreign media printed news which was blocked in Britain are long gone, especially now social media is where you can find all the unsubstantiated gossip and conspiracy theories!

While I’m certainly no fan of H&M, I think it’s funny how it’s now accepted that their ‘deal’ with Netflix consists of Harry broadcasting news and secrets of the royal family. I understood that they see themselves as documentary makers who are going to highlight the many humanitarian issues which Mummy did not live to support in groundbreaking programmes. You know, like the one about the world of polo they are reported to be making.

nanna8 Wed 08-May-24 09:32:54

The alarming thing is that the information is presented as ‘fact’ not ‘speculation’ . Of course it won’t be denied by the palace and they know that.

RosiesMaw Wed 08-May-24 09:02:01

nanna8

What we hear here is that it isn’t prostate cancer. I’m not going to repeat what is said because it may be wrong ,suffice to say it is serious. Sometimes they block information in the UK for obvious reasons.

This is still spreading unsubstantiated gossip though.
The foreign media can speculate all they like -and do- I remember the German press coming up with all sorts of garbage about the Queen 50 or 60 years ago (eg Philip was not Edwards father) -such idle and destructive speculation should be treated with the contempt it deserves.

karmalady Wed 08-May-24 08:42:30

nanna8

What we hear here is that it isn’t prostate cancer. I’m not going to repeat what is said because it may be wrong ,suffice to say it is serious. Sometimes they block information in the UK for obvious reasons.

Whatever cancer it is, it is personal information and it is not right nor kind to speculate

nanna8 Wed 08-May-24 08:38:03

What we hear here is that it isn’t prostate cancer. I’m not going to repeat what is said because it may be wrong ,suffice to say it is serious. Sometimes they block information in the UK for obvious reasons.