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Let the buyer beware.

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Cabbie21 Thu 04-Jul-24 15:47:20

I recently sold an item at auction which made 70 times what my late husband paid for it. Either the dealer who sold it to him or the recent buyer got it wrong. Caveat emptor.

biglouis Thu 04-Jul-24 15:34:35

@fancythat

Yes I am the poster who is an antique dealer. I saw this on another forum and people were saying "buyer beware" same as here. Gold is mostly hallmarked and there is a test you can do in minutes to determine the carat value.

So the jeweller should have used his knowledge and experience to determine the material before making an offer.

Ive occasionally bought something on spec where I could not examine it closely (say in an online auction) and it turned out to be not what I suspected. On the other hand I recently bought a mixed auction lot for £100 and one item alone sold to an Anerican collector for $3000. Thats the nature of the antiques and vintage game.

There are tales in the trade of dealers who bought an old desk and subsequently found a secret drawer with valuables in it. In that case I would keep quiet.

Once an item is sold its sold. Caveat emptor!

Whethertomorrow Thu 04-Jul-24 13:44:34

Perhaps it is gold.

He is just trying it on to get money from both ends.

Wouldn’t trust his opinion either way.

Keep your money.

He played a stupid game, he won a stupid prize as they say on Facebook.

keepingquiet Thu 04-Jul-24 13:35:49

He doesn't sound like he knows much about jewellery. I would take it somewhere reputable next time, to someone who can tell gold from from gold plate.
Meanwhile it was his mistake- maybe offer him a token amount back for wasting his time but I hope he learned his lesson.

Georgesgran Thu 04-Jul-24 13:23:44

Agree with GSM
Surely there’s a test for gold that should’ve been employed before the offer was made? Big mistake by the buyer!

Llamedos13 Thu 04-Jul-24 13:21:55

I came across a few bank notes in an old purse belonging to my daughter who had spent time in Bali.I took them to our bank who determined they were worth $1100.I was handed the cash and very excitedly rushed off to give my daughter the good news.Two weeks later the bank called to say sorry the bills were worthless and they asked for the money to be returned which we did. 🤨

Aveline Thu 04-Jul-24 13:05:46

Yup. Caveat emptor

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 04-Jul-24 13:03:31

I would tell him ‘caveat emptor’. He’s the expert and if he made a mistake without your having made any representation about the ring, that’s his tough luck.

fancythat Thu 04-Jul-24 12:52:16

I cannot remember if you are the poster who regularly buys and sells things?
In which case, there must be rules about this type of thing?

Also, wondering if this is a "reverse", and you are the one who maybe out of pocket?

All going to depend on what the UK? legal position is?
Or would it depend on overseas laws, if another country is involved?

Theexwife Thu 04-Jul-24 12:44:14

It would depend, if he were someone that trusted your expertise so paid thinking you would know if it were gold or if it were someone you didn’t know.

If you didn’t know them then its fair game.

biglouis Thu 04-Jul-24 12:36:34

Lets say you buy a mixed bag of apparently junk jewellery from Ebay, an auction or a car boot sale. You pick out a couple of decent looking rings, take them to a jeweller and ask if he would like to buy them.

The jeweller offers you £500 for what appears to be a mans gold signet ring. The only question he asks is are you legally entitled to sell this property. You tell him yes. You accept the offer.

A few days later he contacts you via text to tell you that the ring is only heavily plated, not gold, and he wants his money back.

I would tell him that he made me an offer based on his professional opinion and I accepted. I did not misrepresent the goods in any way or guarantee that it was gold. So it’s a done deal. Then I would block him.

What would you do?