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if the Spanish don't want us,don't go there

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nanna8 Mon 08-Jul-24 09:12:16

There are places round here that we avoid on weekends because of tourists. Not bad behaviour, just crowding so if we feel like this in an underpopulated country I can imagine how people living in busy international cities must feel.

Lollin Mon 08-Jul-24 09:09:55

I can’t help thinking airb&b has exacerbated the problem ten-fold. They were originally supposed to be in peoples homes weren’t they so that you could also experience local life meet local people on a short stay. Then people saw a way of making lots of money. The water situation and housing has made me want to stay at home and I don’t mean a staycation. I’m fortunate enough to live within reach of lovely small museums by train when they run, but do fear getting stranded on return journeys. I always go to out of reach places for holidays as I’ve preferred to get away from technology but now even those places have Wi-Fi etc. it’s a shame for every area promoting tourism that now are over-run and like shopping centres no where else is promoted until they are bursting at the seams.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 08-Jul-24 09:01:32

Barcelona authorities are cracking down on Air B & B lets, I think they intend to ban them eventually.

(We have never stayed in one)

TerriBull Mon 08-Jul-24 09:00:37

I would be inclined not to go, we went to Spain three years ago to Seville and Cordoba, both fabulous and of course tourist destinations and went back to Seville the following year to meet up with friends from abroad who were having a month long stay there. Having been to both Spain and Portugal, I prefer Spain, once you get away from the Costas, but that's a personal preference, who's to say that the Portuguese might not also take a leaf out of Spain's book anyway, this dissatisfaction with mass tourism is not confined to one country. I understand the Spanish people's point of view, it's the same in many tourist destinations, here too, where locals are being priced out of available accommodation due to AirB&B. I also sympathise with them too over rowdy drunken, rowdy and generally behaviour, but they allowed the proliferation of the sort of places that attract those who go abroad for that reason only and not to embrace the culture of the country. . I don't remember seeing that demographic in France for example when I used to go there regularly which is a while ago now.

I've been several times to a couple of the islands in The Canaries in December, a good place for a winter getaway. Again, I'm not sure I'd go again now the locals have made it clear they're fed up with mass tourism. I think we have to respect their wishes, although of course it's a double edged sword I imagine, tourism = revenue, but equally it brings a multitude of problems.

BlueBelle Mon 08-Jul-24 08:59:20

I totally agree monica I can well understand the locals in Barcelona when I was there last year there were lots of graffiti not about brits but about tourists in general
The locals cannot get any affordable housing because every spare house is now an Airb&B (yes we stayed in one and lovely it was) but I totally understand them it’s being spoilt totally by tourists of every shade and culture

V3ra Mon 08-Jul-24 08:58:12

We're in Playa Blanca in Lanzarote at the moment, a place we've been to many times.
We've been made welcome everywhere, the restaurants are busy and there's a really friendly atmosphere 😎

Grandmabatty Mon 08-Jul-24 08:47:21

Well said Monica. I can't imagine Portugal would be too happy if their country was overrun either.

Joseann Mon 08-Jul-24 08:39:15

The Spanish will dislike the French the most if they beat them at football this week. So the English will be let off, unless we both meet in the final.

M0nica Mon 08-Jul-24 08:38:08

Like so many things, what starts as being a movement that brings economic growth and prosperity to a resort/area/country, over the years grows so large that the conomic advantages begin to fail as the very things that made somewhere popular begin to degrade it.

So many areas that drew tourists in because of the beautiful beaches/ wonderful architecture, peace and quiet now have so many tourists that the beaches are full, so much housing has become holiday accommodation that the locals cannot find homes, streets are heaving masses of people. I am not surprised that the people in many tourist areas of Spain are fed up.

50 years ago I fell in love with Oxford, I wanted to live there, couldn't afford it, but for the last 30 years have lived 10 miles away. I used to go there a lot, parking was easy, if expensive, you could walk round the colleges and their quads, and no one would stop you. In the vacations they were quiet and peaceful. The town was full of indpendent shops.

Now, you cannot move in the city because the pavements are blocked by tourist parties, the shops have all closed to be replced by chain restaurants. The colleges only let people in to visit at certain times and charge a fee, I do not blame them. I now rarely go to Oxford, all I loved has gone, it is just a tourist destination full of eateries and booths selling tawdry souvenirs.

My sympathies are all with the protesters of Barcelona.

Jackiest Mon 08-Jul-24 08:29:43

The problem is some of the British have behaved so badly that we are not welcome in many parts of the world.

We are being judged by the actions of a small number which is wrong and we should not do it either.

NotSpaghetti Mon 08-Jul-24 07:57:12

OK. I thought this might be about the shocking Islamophobia incident.

I had totally missed the water pistols.

Infoman?*

MissInterpreted Mon 08-Jul-24 07:53:17

I don't think it's just the incidents in Barcelona though - there have been protests in various areas, including the Balearic and Canary Islands.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 08-Jul-24 07:47:49

I assume that the OP is referring to the incidents in Barcelona over the weekend when tourists in bars and cafes were squirted with water pistol’s by unhappy locals.

NotSpaghetti Mon 08-Jul-24 07:36:58

Who are "The Spanish" though?

infoman Mon 08-Jul-24 07:32:36

If the Spanish are upset about the amount of tourists visiting their country,then lets go somewhere for our holidays. Portugal is nice with a similar climate.
Then we'll see the the Spanish plead with us to visit their country again.