Football Bloody Football

Sago we travelled home from London by train last year despite my misgivings (we usually book a car to pick us up)

The local team had lost, and we were sat with a group of supporters, I was very anxious!

Within a few minutes they were chatting with us and DS, commiserating and joking about how dreadful our team had played (we all supported the same team) They had definitely had a few beers, but were what I suppose is described as happy drunks, and made for an enjoyable train ride.

I really do not think it’s the football that is the problem, these men (and sometimes women) have no social skills, do not think of anyone but themselves. They use football as an excuse to forget the social mores.

I was raised in the circle of the 66 team, parents knew them all well. There were plenty of hooligans who hooked onto football as an excuse back then also.

I am not a football fan, but delighted with last nights victory.

I had the misfortune two years ago to be caught up in the exit of thousands of football fans I was getting a train out of our City.

Their behaviour was beyond dreadful, it was genuinely frightening, once on the train then proceeded to smoke and drink and swear, one even exposed himself.

The was no regard for the women, children travelling.

Their team had lost and these men were not to be challenged, I would not want to be the Mother,daughter or partner waiting at home.

You would think there was nothing else going on (a large local factory is closing and there is talk of a possible new pandemic - not that you would know listening to our local radio!).

Perhaps we needed some better news alongside all the gloomsville?

Yes, there are job losses in more than one location and it's very worrying. Talk of a possible new pandemic is irresponsible unless it is a fact and could cause mass hysteria after last time.

But at least there's the football, 😁⚽️

I'm afraid I am another who is bored with the football - have no interest in it, however, having said that I am pleased for those who do love it that they are through to the final.

What is annoying me today is the local morning show radio presenter is obsessed with football. He has talked about nothing else for the last 3 hours! You would think there was nothing else going on (a large local factory is closing and there is talk of a possible new pandemic - not that you would know listening to our local radio!).

You may find football one long yawn but you don’t have to watch it.
It’s a good sport enjoyed by many.

Yes there’s an increase in domestic abuse, especially if the team do badly. Men are the main perpetrators of domestic abuse. Men who are violent and abusive in the family home don’t need football to enable their behaviour. Alcohol clearly plays a role in domestic abuse]

Your question - what is wrong with men - is an important one. Maybe worthy of its own thread. I’m still buzzing from cheering the men / lads/ boys on last night.

Exactly Cossy if domestic violence is ‘in the air’ it can be anything that triggers an attack.

Sadly, perps of domestic violence will use any excuse to use their fists and anything else at their disposal!

They can be drunk or sober.

Banning alcohol (heaven forbid!) will not lead to less domestic violence.

mae13

One. Long. Yawn.

But on the serious side: why does a football team winning or losing seem to overwhelmingly influence levels of domestic violence?

What IS wrong with men?

Do you mean violence or domestic violence. If it is violence I think it is because too many are drunk when they actually get into the stadium and when the match is won in their favour, they think they are invincible and start arguments with supporters of the losing team.

Too much drink is the main cause of any kind of violence. Ban it like cigarettes have been banned as it is bad for your health and costing the NHS millions.

Allsorts

I don't think supporting football makes men violent. Know loads of women and men that do and are passionate about it but not remotely violent. Good for everyone to have a sport to follow and enjoy. Can't see the pleasure in watching boxing it makes me feel sick.

I agree that most football supporters are not violent hooligans but I believe that there is a connection between a violent man's team losing and a rise in domestic violence.

Most men do not beat up their wives and children but a significant minority do. Just because you don't know any doesn't mean they don't exist.

England winning last night will have made a lot of people, both men and women very happy.
The team will have inspired children to be active in a sport, which is good for physical and mental health.
Why the need to focus on the small percentage of idiots who will find any excuse to be abusive and/or violent to their partners?

I don't think supporting football makes men violent. Know loads of women and men that do and are passionate about it but not remotely violent. Good for everyone to have a sport to follow and enjoy. Can't see the pleasure in watching boxing it makes me feel sick.

I think alcohol might play a part but it is the personality of the perpetrator that has a bigger effect. Any excuse really.

Alcohol

It's well known that losing at football leads to an increase in domestic violence. Testosterone issues?!

Does it? Domestic violence?
I know it does in the 'supporters near the Grounds, due to high levels of alcohol and hysteria fuelling the mob, but does it provoke violence at home as well? Honestly don't know.