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BigBopper Tue 27-Aug-24 08:04:17

Was the child just sitting in the diggers seat or actually driving it, I am not quite sure what the poster meant. I know if I had a digger in my garden our 10 year old grandson would definitely want to sit in the seat but that doesn't mean he was going to turn it on and drive it.

David49 Tue 27-Aug-24 07:32:47

NotSpaghetti

Sorry David49 - I just think this is not, in reality how the OP describes it.

If the OP is really saying the child is playing around the building site, that’s different, if it’s not securely fenced it’s likely a DIY project not a professional builder. If it’s a normal house building site with foundation trenches, heaps of soil it a great playground I loved those places all those years ago

It’s the parents responsibility to ensure the child is safe, it wouldn’t concern me as long as there was no deep water

NotSpaghetti Mon 26-Aug-24 21:10:25

Sorry David49 - I just think this is not, in reality how the OP describes it.

Patsy70 Mon 26-Aug-24 19:30:35

Yes, another wind-up! 🥱

Skydancer Mon 26-Aug-24 18:38:15

I often wonder about some posts. Where is the OP? Is this another wind-up? If so, how bored must some people be!

David49 Mon 26-Aug-24 13:09:33

NotSpaghetti

David49 I wasn't saying drive

The OP did say 10 yr old was “using” the machines, as opposed to playing on them, keys should not be left in machines.

NotSpaghetti Mon 26-Aug-24 08:24:27

David49 I wasn't saying drive

David49 Mon 26-Aug-24 08:05:15

Drive tractors under 13

David49 Mon 26-Aug-24 08:03:47

Children on farms are not allowed to drive tractors, over that age they are trained to do various work, they would not be allowed to “play” driving tractors.

I trained my grandson 14 to drive a digger, explained the safety and controls then told him to dig a hole - he did a very large one, a 16 he was expert, but had to get his official training certificate.

Iam64 Sun 25-Aug-24 22:32:39

Wise comment , not spaghetti

Tenko Sun 25-Aug-24 20:14:58

Your friend needs to speak to the parents.

NotSpaghetti Sun 25-Aug-24 20:05:37

It sounds unlikely as it is told.
"Messing about" with equipment like a giant digger toy park.

I don't doubt he may be involved in renovation activities though.
Plenty of farm children sit in cabs with family for example.

I'd want to know more than we do before I commented further.

Jaxjacky Sun 25-Aug-24 19:45:29

Four hours later, no sign of OP, is it just me, if I post a query, I watch the thread for responses and acknowledge them?

Esmay Sun 25-Aug-24 19:16:07

I have to admit this sounds really dangerous .
I'd express my concerns to the parents , but it doesn't always go down well !
If you report them -they'll know who it was !

Georgesgran Sun 25-Aug-24 18:25:28

I’m ’reading’ that some or all of the renovation/work is being done by the householder? That would mean that they have the keys to the machinery, and they are allowing the child to play around with it?
I’m sure no bona fide contractor would leave any keys with the householder, nor allow a child on site (with or without hi-viz, hard hat etc) at any cost.

I know that it’s often usual on farms for youngsters to muck in to help their parents with some tasks - perhaps the rules are different on private land? Years ago, we donated my old Fiat 500 to a friend, who allowed his sons to drive it a mile down from the farmhouse to the farm gates to connect with the school bus - years before they’d be able to get a driving licence.

crazyH Sun 25-Aug-24 17:01:08

The parents need to be reported. An unsupervised 10year old in a tractor is a danger to everyone 😡

Cossy Sun 25-Aug-24 16:31:58

I would speak with the parents Asap Have you witnessed this? How has he got the keys?

Iam64 Sun 25-Aug-24 16:30:22

I don’t understand how a 10 year old starts the machines

Skydancer Sun 25-Aug-24 16:26:35

She should definitely report it to the Council. Health and Safety laws are very strict. Letting a 10-year-old use heavy machinery is absurd.

keepingquiet Sun 25-Aug-24 16:20:13

Who is 'letting' this happen? The vehicle owners or the parents, or both?

I think before contacting anyone the 'responsible' adults (or not) should be spoken to first.

Safeguarding isn't about 'reporting,' it is about getting the right information so that everyone can stay safe.

Make some enquiries before anything else, in the end it is the parents who are the first port of call here.

Iam64 Sun 25-Aug-24 16:19:24

Surely if she’s concerned (I would be) she should talk with his parents

Astitchintime Sun 25-Aug-24 16:15:13

Has the company that uses these machines left the keys for anyone to use or have the friends son and DIL hired the machines to use themselves?
Either way, someone is being extremely negligent and irresponsible to allow a child to use them unsupervised - if he doesn't injure himself he could easily injure someone else.
Sounds like a case of neglect IMO.

midgey Sun 25-Aug-24 16:07:46

I’m pretty sure that the law hasn’t changed and you must be thirteen to drive a tractor.

LOUISA1523 Sun 25-Aug-24 15:58:26

Can she speak to the parents herself?....discuss her concerns ?

LilCatMomma83 Sun 25-Aug-24 15:28:31

My friend's son and DIL are having major renovations done at home, involving heavy plant - diggers, excavators etc. They are letting their 10 year old boy use these machines unsupervised, like a giant digger toy park. My friend wants to report them, from a safeguarding view. Should she? Who would even be interested in this ? Should she leave well alone and hope the boy comes to no harm?