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Oreo Sun 01-Sept-24 21:02:35

Allira

Those who make the laws or are employed to uphold the laws should not break the laws.

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Allira Sun 01-Sept-24 20:22:44

I didn't think of him specifically, Indigo8, but yes, he fits the bill.

I remember my friend who died during (not from) Covid and only her two sons went to her funeral.
We could not go to my niece's funeral either.

Indigo8 Sun 01-Sept-24 20:11:13

Allira you weren't thinking Boris Johnson's Covid restrictions that he so spectacularly ignored were you?

I feel very bitter about this because my aunt died of Covid in hospital and my cousins were not allowed to sit with her and she never had a proper funeral.

This was at the time when Boris and cronies were having jolly drinks and karaoke parties at number 10.

Norah Sun 01-Sept-24 17:26:59

Allira

Those who make the laws or are employed to uphold the laws should not break the laws.

Indeed.

Allira Sun 01-Sept-24 16:59:31

Those who make the laws or are employed to uphold the laws should not break the laws.

M0nica Sun 01-Sept-24 16:57:18

Those in authority or the public eye are punished twice, once in the courts and more widely by public opprobrium, which is ofetn by far the worst thing. Look how people's careers have been totally ruined, because they did something wrong, and served a sentence or paid a fine and then were damned for ever more in the public eye. where someone with no public profile can serve a sentence,or pay a fine and then rebuild their lives aand became a good and useful citizen,

Norah Sun 01-Sept-24 14:49:10

We expect people to lead from the front. Be responsible.

Indigo8 Sun 01-Sept-24 14:48:09

A crime is a crime and should be punished whoever the perpetrator is.
I think the question is really about whether people in responsible positions should be punished more severely than those of us with a more lowly position in society.
Should such people know better than us plebs from the lower walks of life?
I don't really know the answer to that. I can only say that rich, influential people cannot plead poverty or ignorance in the same way that some 'ordinary' people can. And that the police are supposed to be bastions of law and order not sex offenders etc.

Wyllow3 Sun 01-Sept-24 14:41:38

Ownership of massive social media platforms.

M0nica Sun 01-Sept-24 14:36:41

No, but the person committing the wrong is more culpable. You expect a Labour politician who owns rental flats should ensure that they are properly maintained and ket to the highest standards that his party caampaigns about.

I expect policeman to be more law abiding than anyone else.

It is called setting an example.

Smileless2012 Sun 01-Sept-24 14:33:00

No I don't because if something is wrong it's wrong. It isn't more wrong if the perpetrator has responsibility, authority or power or less wrong if they don't.

RosiesMaw2 Sun 01-Sept-24 14:23:02

Do you not think that those in a position of responsibility, authority or power should be answerable to a higher code of conduct than the rest of society?
I know we are all human and therefore fallible but I also feel that with authority comes responsibility.
Examples
The Labour MP landlord currently under scrutiny for the appalling state of the accommodation he lets.

Policemen accused (or guilty) or serious offences including domestic assault or sexual assault in the community

Politicians who exploit (dare I say “fiddle”) every expense loophole.
I won’t go on but I’m sure others can think of more.