Is she right or is she wrong

Hebden Bridge? Is that some sort of cosmopolitan, arty, sophisticated town? More so than Hay-OnWye🧐
It was done to try and generate some interest in the artist, I use the word loosely, and her offerings.Maybe she should go into PR and put the pastels and oils away.

I wonder what the protesters would think of Egon Schiele? Admittedly, as Mary Beard says, he's a bit heavy on masturbation. Great drawings though.

Since 1988 , when the first Hay book festival began - it has changed from a being a sleepy market town to a place , which attracts broad minded arty people in droves .
Some of the inhabitants like the wealth that it generates and some are deeply resentful about escalating house prices .
So I'm not that surprised at the knee jerk reaction .
I don't think that it's great art ,but no more offensive than explicit art created by Frieda Kahlo and Jenny Saville .
Maybe this art would have had less rejection in Hebden Bridge .

I cant see that, it's so unrealistic OTT almost silly not like the sort of realistic images that endanger teenagers.

Its reported in the Telegraph 6 hours ago it was taken down from the window.

petra

eddiecat78

Many of us are trying to tell our granddaughters that they don't have to share photos of their bodies. I can just imagine a lad saying to his girlfriend "it's on display in the High Street, it's fine for you to do the same"

Absolutely 👏👏👏

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eddiecat78

Many of us are trying to tell our granddaughters that they don't have to share photos of their bodies. I can just imagine a lad saying to his girlfriend "it's on display in the High Street, it's fine for you to do the same"

Absolutely 👏👏👏

The artwork features a naked woman wearing cowboy boots with her legs spread, revealing a black triangle with pink wool on top, rather than genitals

Not really porn as the genitalia are covered, but lots of publicity

MissAdventure

I think I saw this painter and some of her work on TV, a couple of months ago.

She also paints menstruating images, such as a woman with blood running down her legs, and so on, as well as women who have cellulite, blotches, ugly veins,bulbous breaststroke, and all the other things we all have, to some extent.

I don't mind nude paintings, but I find the woman painted with her legs open crude. I just do not like it.
I would not complain about it though as it is only personal opinion.

There’s art to make you think. I find Joan Miro like that. Then there’s art that shows off how poor your ability is, and relies on shock to get any attention all.

There's art to make you think, often uncomfortable, which I like or admire but no, not for the living room.

Nightsky2

Parsley3

Poppy Baynham said the controversy was improving her profile as an artist

I cannot buy into the opinion that anything goes when it comes to art. There was a great hoohah about those knitted nudies in the shop window so why not about a painting of a female inviting people to peer up her fandango. A great example to set the grandchildren.
Anyone thinking of buying the painting to hang in the dining room?

I don’t think any of us can afford her art. Her painting “Propped 1992” sold for well over £9.5000,000. The most expensive artwork by a female artist in auction history.

I paint pretty pictures which a lot of the time don’t sell. Would I hang Jenny Saville’s art work over my mantelpiece the answer is no, I would not.

I don’t think much of Poppy Baynham’s work either and won’t be bidding for it.😣. Definitely not one for over the mantelpiece.

As someone said: "it's not very Hay-on-Wye".

In fact, it's just not very good but perhaps this artist would never get noticed without being controversial.

Parsley3

^Poppy Baynham said the controversy was improving her profile as an artist^

I cannot buy into the opinion that anything goes when it comes to art. There was a great hoohah about those knitted nudies in the shop window so why not about a painting of a female inviting people to peer up her fandango. A great example to set the grandchildren.
Anyone thinking of buying the painting to hang in the dining room?

Fandango! 😁

I have been to many, many life drawing classes. Models both male and female, In the 60s a male model wore a posing pouch, not so these days. But I have never seen a model in such a blatant pose. ….but I would draw it if needs be.

Mollygo

So that’s a picture of a woman in a shop window, in a particular pose meant to shock, not to praise the female form, not of great artistic value IMO.
How will all posters on here feel when a would-be Banksy decides that’s the next great idea for the side of a building.
I’m curious, foxie48
Do they run the life classes outside in public places?
Do all sorts of positions include the display of female genitalia here with or without the fabric covering on this painting?
Would you volunteer to display yourself in that position for a life drawing class?
I did life drawing as part of a Uni course many years ago and my artistic talents are about on a par with that artist, but the nudes, whatever age, were always tasteful.

What I have said in my post, Mollygo is that the picture "doesn't bother me in the slightest" and it doesn't. The issue of where life classes are held, whether positions show genitalia and whether I would volunteer as a model in any position was not the question that was asked by the OP. I am very used to seeing naked people, I'm perfectly aware that they have genitalia and that women menstruate so I just don't find anything in the picture "bothers" me. That is my answer.

Gustav Corbet painting of a vulva is considered great art. No different.

Of course it wasn't the artist that put it in the window anyway.
It was the gallery owner/curator

Parsley3

^Poppy Baynham said the controversy was improving her profile as an artist^

I cannot buy into the opinion that anything goes when it comes to art. There was a great hoohah about those knitted nudies in the shop window so why not about a painting of a female inviting people to peer up her fandango. A great example to set the grandchildren.
Anyone thinking of buying the painting to hang in the dining room?

I don’t think any of us can afford her art. Her painting “Propped 1992” sold for well over £9.5000,000. The most expensive artwork by a female artist in auction history.

I paint pretty pictures which a lot of the time don’t sell. Would I hang Jenny Saville’s art work over my mantelpiece the answer is no, I would not.

Wouldn’t have it on my wall, but not offended or unduly bothered by it.

I realise that I haven't answered the OP' s question. She is right to paint what she likes and if her motivation was publicity then she was right to put it in the window. I just find everything wrong with how she chooses to portray the female form.

I love Jenny Saville's work. It really speaks to me and I would have no problem discussing her art with my granddaughter's ( that's my yardstick for criticising Baynham's legs akimbo). Picasso did some sketches of female genitalia in his later years and I thought that they looked angry and cruel when I saw them in an exhibition.

Poor woman, it must be sad thinking you are an artist, when everyone else thinks you couldn't draw a crooked line.

I suggest she beocmes a performance artist and strips off and lies in the window of the gallery, legs spread wide, at least she would then be described as 'brave'.

NotSpaghetti

It's on Instagram in a little video if anyone wants to actually see it.

I don't see what the fuss is about.
Artists have done this for years - L'origine du monde by Courbet, church carvings like the one in Kendal (Sheel -ne gig?).. There was an artist in Sweden who painted/drew (?) God giving Birth.

All sorts.
And certainly let's of textile art too

The Courbet is a fantastic painting and a homage to women.
This is just a crap painting.

Gransnetters have mentioned life models and having seen it all before. In all my years of attending life classes, no model has ever taken up this position.

Exactly Wyllow3 - and you will notice it's in the window but displayed behind the signage for the gallery and behind the info re complaints/thoughts.

The question then is, is she objectifying women, or is she pointing out that women are objectified, only seen in certain ways?

But she doesn't do it well, either way! Jenny Saville is probably skills wise one of the most prominent artists in the genre

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