PM accepted £20,000 so his boy could study

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Retired65

I am sure Keir Starmer had still got the house he was living in before he was Prime minister. My children used to book a study room at the local library to study for their exams.

Just how safe do you think the lad would have felt in a public library?

Exactly. The whole family will have had to adjust to a completely new life. Anyone who cares at all about children will understand that.

(thoughts and prayers, OldFrill. thoughts and prayers.)

Freya5

Doodledog

Labour is not against wealth. It is against some people hoarding wealth at the expense of others. Blair's government accepted that many of the working class are aspirational, and this has continued under Starmer.

My beliefs, as a LP supporter are that everyone should have the opportunity to thrive, and achieve what they can for their families and themselves. I own my home, want the best for my children and have savings from my own work. I don't see that as hypocrisy at all - I would like to live in a society where those things are available for everyone.

Well they aren't are they, and let's face it they never ever will be. Even in Communism, some snouts are always at the top of the stye.
Labour are no different in this to what the Conservatives wanted, but of course because it come from Labour it's the right thing to say.
Favouring foreign regimes over some of the countries longest tax payng poor is despicable . Don't not say PC, over a quarter of a million have been denied it.
This will not be forgotten.

I don't know where to start with this. I'll take it a step at a time.

Who aren't what and never will be? Opportunities? No they aren't, but they should be. I'm not talking about innate ability, but the chance to get a good education, not to go to school hungry, to get timely healthcare, to live in decent housing, etc. Those things should be available to everyone, not just those born to money.

The LP is not Communist, and therefore does not espouse communist policies, and neither do most of their voters (they would vote Communist if they did).

Labour and the Conservatives are very different - why did people vote Labour if they were unaware of this, and why are so many Tory supporters complaining now the LP is in power if they are no different?

Who has favoured foreign regimes, and what is the relationship between the benefits budget and the one for foreign aid?

How many claimants of WFP have paid tax for longer than most? Those who have done so will be on a full pension.

I wasn't going to mention PC, but since you have brought it up, who has been denied it if they qualify for it? Many don't qualify of course, and IMO many more people should, but equally there has to be some incentive to pay into a pension, as if we want to reduce the number of immigrants (as I believe you do?) we need more people working and paying NI, and thus getting a full pension in their own right.

OldFrill

It must be dreadful for most children to have a parent become a significant public figure. My mother became president if the village WI so l can commiserate.

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I had a privileged upbringing and education.

My own child had a privileged atmosphere in which to study - due to the ‘generosity’ of a party donor.

I will stop others from making sacrifices to ensure their children have a secure childhood and good education.

Well Boris would have done himself proud to be a M&S customer.

Totally agree. What about housing where kids have to share bedrooms with younger siblings and/or maybe the whole family share small space. Oh how the other half live....

OldFrill

It must be dreadful for most children to have a parent become a significant public figure. My mother became president if the village WI so l can commiserate.

It really doesn’t matter, and frankly no one actually really cares, where Starmer’s son studied and lived.

It really doesn’t matter, it’s so petty and irrelevant.

Let’s concentrate on real news and the hope that the UN can play a positive role in the current atrocities between Israel and Gaza, & Russia and Ukraine.

That those in need in our country are properly looked after and all GNs & their families stay safe and well.

I’m done with back-biting, bashing and bitching, life is far too short

It must be dreadful for most children to have a parent become a significant public figure. My mother became president if the village WI so l can commiserate.

Well, he'd have to catch the bus there, because lots of families don't have cars, of course...

Retired65

I am sure Keir Starmer had still got the house he was living in before he was Prime minister. My children used to book a study room at the local library to study for their exams.

Just how safe do you think the lad would have felt in a public library?

Exactly, Cossy!

Until the rules change "nothing to see here".

Take a break? Noooo. If you can't take it don't give it.

NotSpaghetti

libra

“I wonder if any posters would be as 'forgiving' if it had been a conservative PM or MP who had received these 'gifts'.

I would say that if the circumstances were the same, (declared appropriately etc) any adults in the room would see it was OK.
Why is this an issue?”

MPs and PMs party wide HAVE accepted freebies, some declared them properly and openly, some less so. A little bit like the MP expenses scandal.

IMO, all personal donations should be stopped across the board, I would also like to see MP expenses overhauled.

Retired65

I am sure Keir Starmer had still got the house he was living in before he was Prime minister. My children used to book a study room at the local library to study for their exams.

Yet another poster who hasn't given a second's thought before they post. Starmer wasn't PM when his son was studying for and taking his GCSEs. So was actually living in his own house and no doubt subject to a lot of press intrusion in the runup to the GE.

It makes you long for the good old days when Labour leaders knew their place.

Freya5
Doodledog
“Labour is not against wealth. It is against some people hoarding wealth at the expense of others. Blair's government accepted that many of the working class are aspirational, and this has continued under Starmer.

My beliefs, as a LP supporter are that everyone should have the opportunity to thrive, and achieve what they can for their families and themselves. I own my home, want the best for my children and have savings from my own work. I don't see that as hypocrisy at all - I would like to live in a society where those things are available for everyone.
Well they aren't are they, and let's face it they never ever will be. Even in Communism, some snouts are always at the top of the stye.
Labour are no different in this to what the Conservatives wanted, but of course because it come from Labour it's the right thing to say.
Favouring foreign regimes over some of the countries longest tax payng poor is despicable . Don't not say PC, over a quarter of a million have been denied it.
This will not be forgotten.“

Freya5

The playing field could be made so much more level (levelling up haha, remember that great initiative), if public services were vastly improved and a good education was available for all and if all the family services attempting to help those in poverty, with chaotic lives, to sort themselves out and get back into the labour market.

I know this, I was one of the DWP attached to a LA, working alongside both family and social workers, until all these services stopped being funded!

libra

I wonder if any posters would be as 'forgiving' if it had been a conservative PM or MP who had received these 'gifts'.

I would say that if the circumstances were the same, (declared appropriately etc) any adults in the room would see it was OK.
Why is this an issue?

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Seagull72

There seems to be a media blitz against Keir Starmer and his cabinet. I don’t remember so much outrage when the Tories were given freebies. Perhaps there should be legislation and all MPs dressed by M and S.

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This steady, and in some cases petty, drip drip drip of none stop slating of the LP is frankly getting boring.

It’s becoming obsessive for some of you.

YES, we complained about the last govt, YES, we were glad to see the back of them.

However, they had 14 years to make things right, and they didn’t succeed even with 5 different PMs and god knows how many chancellors.

Just take a break, just for a few days please.

It’s ridiculous frankly!

Starmer is not in the same league as Sunak and Johnson and many other Tories when it comes to wealth. Do people really expect the pm to live in a council house ( he’d get slated for that though) and be on the breadline. Honestly, I’m not the biggest fan, but this Smear Keir campaign contains so many distortions and overblown misinterpretations that it becomes laughable. No one seems to remember the shambles that was Johnson and Cummings or basically any of the last 4 Tory PMs.

Willow68

Kier is a very wealthy man. He could pay very easily for a rental property penthouse for the use of studying for exams. He could easily pay for a box at football , people seem to think he is no where near as wealthy as he is.he is a disgrace , example the box at football, would cost tax payer more if he went in the stands. The missing point is, why isn’t he paying for a box he could well afford, favours and freebies are not without expectations of something in return. I do however hope he lives up to what he has promised, however I am doubtful he will stay as leader if this continues.

Robert Jenrick, would be Conservative leader, has just since the election accepted £100.000 in gifts (doesnt give info what for, just cash)

Jenrick owns three homes, including two in London, one of which is a £2.5m townhouse less than a mile from the Houses of Parliament. He also owns Eye Manor, a Grade I listed building in Herefordshire which he purchased for £1.1 million in 2009.(wiki)

In 2021 Tory party receives £150k donation two days after Robert Jenrick decides in favour of a planning application for 625 new homes near Ledbury.
centralbylines.co.uk/region/west-midlands/robert-jenrick-more-than-a-little-help-for-his-friends/

If we are to have a new moral code, suggest a good MP must live in sackcloth and ashes, can we start right now to apply it across the board?

That should be 'has'.

I am sure Keir Starmer had still got the house he was living in before he was Prime minister. My children used to book a study room at the local library to study for their exams.

There seems to be a media blitz against Keir Starmer and his cabinet. I don’t remember so much outrage when the Tories were given freebies. Perhaps there should be legislation and all MPs dressed by M and S.