Very strange “metal” experience.

RosiesMaw2

Apologies BlueBelle
(Am I wrong in thinking “metal” in the title was deliberate too?)
Back to bed.

Yes I'm wondering if 'metal' should have been mental.

Do see a doctor biglouis.

Philosophical BigLouis. I admire you for that. Best to just live every day as it comes.
Take care xxx

Many thanks for your interesting responses.

I dont think it was a TIA because the symptoms were so brief and transient although I did have a pressure type headache on and off most of yesterday. It was gone today. This morning I went to re-read the descriptions I was writing yesterday when it occurred and despite what happened they all made perfect sense. I must have done them on autopilot.

Ive always been very negative about going to doctors unless I absolutely have to. I have an end diagnosis for cyrosis of the liver which has a prognosis of 1-3 years, So I am already resigned to the expectation that I wont live a lot longer. I was 80 a few weeks ago and I dont see the point of living to be 90.

My grandmother was very religious and used to say that she was happy to be taken in her sleep. She believed you were granted 70 years on the earth and anything more was a bonus. So I wont be rushing off to the GP as it would be just one more thing to worry about.

Have a friend who experiences this, she suffers TIAs, would get a referral to look into this.
All the best xx

Big Louis, that's a really good description of my disarranged perception after my stroke.

I did mental exercises provided by my sons to help me to read and name things again. One of these exercises was a illustrated book series for children, and another was simply printed series such as numerical and alphabetical orders.

Your experience however seems to have been very transient. Get advice from your doctor .

My Nan had a number of TIAs she went completely blank for a few seconds/ minutes staring into space then felt sick as she ‘came back’ to life

Many years ago when I was in my 30s I had an anaesthetic for a procedure in hospital. When I came home I was trying to write a shopping list for DH but could I spell some of the items? The word 'Cauliflower' was just completely beyond me.

I wonder if having brain fog after Covid might feel the same?

I think I'd get it checked out, though, biglouis. A friend just had a TIA, luckily she was with a family member who is a nurse at the time. She started talking gibberish but was ok a few minutes later.
After a checkup and overnight stay hospital she has new medication and seems to be her usual bright and breezy self again.

Definitely get checked but perhaps it was caused by extreme tiredness.

dragonfly46

I had this once after an ocular migraine. My GP got me an appointment at the stroke clinic the following week and after many tests I was told it was just the effects of the migraine. Best to get it checked out especially as you have had it before.

This happened to me too. The ocular migraine subsided and I got on with the usual household stuff. Half an hour later someone phoned me and I found myself talking like Stanley Unwin. By then I had forgotten the migraine, as it wasn't unusual. GP sent to me to A&E, thinking it was a TIA or even a stroke. When I mentioned the migraine they were uncertain but gave me testa and prescribed blood thinners in case.

Co-incidentally to all this, I went for an eyetest a week or two later, and took advantage of the OCR scan offered for £10. I was told there was a small patch of thickened retina in one eye, as a result I am now attending the Eye Hospital for regular injections to shrink it. The thickening is caused by a leaky vein in the retina lining making the tissue swell, and if untreated can cause blindness. The only symptom is a slight loss of detail in the centre of the vision - which is easily put down to old age.

In the weeks before my Stanley Unwin episode, I was getting ocular migraines about every week or two, and I once had three in two days. I have had none since!! I don't know whether that is due to the blood thinners or to the injections, or whether the swelling was causing migraines or the migraines causing the swelling, or if one was nothing to do with the other, but I do think we should all be getting this OCR scan, and also that you should see someone about the tongue-twisting - it may be a symptom of something serious!

I had this during my finals exam. I told the supervisor I couldn't write and felt unwell but she presumed I had taken drugs and wouldn't help me. I sat for a long time with a headache and eventually finished the exam which I passed with credit. Very scary.

The good thing about suspecting a TIA Biglouis is that you should be seen very quickly by the hospital.. Get onto your GP for an immediate referral.. goodluck

No idea RosiesMaw I didn’t write the title 🤣🤣🤣

My young grandson ( late teens) once had a bad migraine that affected the use of his arm and his speech dragonfly but all tests were clear and it was the migraine only affecting him
But do get it checked Biglouis it could be nothing or something It was enough to spook you into writing about it on here

Apologies BlueBelle
(Am I wrong in thinking “metal” in the title was deliberate too?)
Back to bed.

Yes, biglouis, I have experienced the kind of text not making sense thing you describe but thinking about it in response to your question, it seems to be only onscreen when the meaning of what I've written seems to slip never when handwriting.

However, for years I've had occasions where, when I am handwriting, I've looked at a familiar word, with the correct spelling - I'm a bit of a spelling pedant - and it just looks "wrong" so I have to mentally repeat the word until it sort of adjusts back into place and looks "right" again. I've always put this down to a bit of brain fatigue at that particular moment and maybe, because we are composing what to say is so much faster onscreen, a temporary fatigued brain freeze is what's going on?

Obviously, as we get older the scary prospects of stroke and tia happening are greater but because I've experienced this kind of word blindness when much younger and with, seemingly, no lasting ill effects, I've just thought it's one of those glitches that occur when I'm possibly overtired mentally.

I hope my experience of this gives you a bit of reassurance but it's always good to have things checked out medically as other posters suggest.

I had this once after an ocular migraine. My GP got me an appointment at the stroke clinic the following week and after many tests I was told it was just the effects of the migraine. Best to get it checked out especially as you have had it before.

My husband had a similar experience but it was his speech jumbling. He had had sedation for an endoscopy 3 days before. By ambulance to hospital and had a brain scan and 5 days later an MRI headscan. Neither showed conclusive stroke or TIA but he was treated as if it were with new meds to bring home. This was more than 3 months ago and it hasnt recurred, but could do.
I would get it checked.
That's the reason you need someone with you for 24 hours after an anaesthetic. Your last occurrence could have been a big problem for you on your own.

I have had TGA anhd have also spent a day with someone who was having one, altough none of us, including him, realised. That is something very different to what BigLouis experienced.

With TGA you are functioning normally but when you come to you have no memory of the previous period. In my case it was about 20 minutes, in my friend's case it was 18 hours.

It sounds to me more like a very slight TIA. Either way I would have it checked out.

My thought was TGA too, BlueBelle

No Rosiesmaw I didn’t make a mistake TGA (transient global amnesia) can be everything from losing small moments to losing 24 hours Very scary although you don’t realise necessarily anything is wrong till the moment, hour or day is over
The symptoms of course could also indicate TIA

Ask for a checkup biglouis, may be nothing but if it was a TIA better to know than not. Wishing you well.

Welcome to my world. I was finally diagnosed with the rare hereditary neurological condition I was born with at the age of 63. And found a Facebook group for people who have it . I am no longer weird but normal for the condition.

All my life I have been in pain with my legs and fallen . Learning things at school was difficult but learn from an early age to write out the days lesson 3 times so the information would be retained. Did it all thought high school and college . I am clever and did well in exams.

What words form in my mind and what ends up written down can be 2 different things . I look at my posts and emails I have written then have to change them as they don't make sense .
Had tremors in my hands for decades and haven't been able to write long hand for years. Because of controlling the pen my writing is very small and all lower case. Sometimes I can't even read my own hand writing.

When I talk words get jumbled up. In my mind it makes sense but what comes out is different. Can't pronounce some words and have to concentrate very hard to say what I mean . I can repeat myself and not even know I have already said the same thing. Forget what I am saying half way through a sentence .

When I had seizures it took my speech for a few hours which was frightening especially the first time it happened as didn't know if it would come back luckily it did so when I had one again I knew I would beable to talk again. I didn't realise I wasn't talking as in my mind I was . It's only when I saw my daughter crying and said mom you aren't talking I realised. Then I cried.

I am a chatterbox luckily since moving to the north west 5 years ago had no negative comments from the people here if I get jumbled up talking . I just start to say what I want to say over again .

I was born with a mutant gene in my brain receptors which has effected my whole life and have lot of physical quirks. It's complex but thanks to my extended family growing up and the infant and junior school I went to with all my friends I grew up with I didn't realise I was different until high school. Then got bullied every day for 5 years. Plus falling up or down stairs or on the flat gave them more ammunition for bullying .

But having my diagnosis everything makes sense . My old neurologist could have had the test run my new one did and he could have put me on the tablet to stop my limb jerks abd seizures but didn't. But not bitter about it as I was such a relief to finally have my diagnosis and the tablet to stop the limb jerks and seizures.

It's taken me 95 mins to write this.

Do you mean TIA?
DH’s first TIA showed the symptoms of talking nonsense or struggling to find even everyday words.
Do see somebody- it can take so long to get a referral there’s no point in putting it off.
Frightening, but there may be a benign explanation.
PS do you want to get GNHQ to edit the title to “mental” not “metal” ?

I think you should have a check up as soon as you can it sounds as if it was something temporary passing over your brain or the part of your brain that deals with words my first thought was TGA but that’s not usually just words but the whole kabush
I d see your GP asap it could be a warning sign

I once found I was completely unable to understand the time..

It was an absolutely terrible feeling; I had to talk myself through it "Right, that's the clock. Those are the hands... and, and...."
It took several attempts, and for me to put it out of my mind and go back to it half an hour later before it started to register again.

I've no idea what caused it, but I'm hoping never to experience it again.