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biglouis Sat 28-Sept-24 23:37:29

Today something very odd happened to me. I am wondering if any of you have ever experienced anything like this and what you made of it.

I was typing descriptions for one of my shops when suddenly I experienced a form of what I can only describe as word blindness. I could see the words and the letters but they meant nothing to me. I knew what the words were for. However when I tried to compose a sentence I couldn’t do it competently. I was getting the words in the wrong order and mis-spelling them. I have never suffered from dyslexia but I can imagine that trying to make sense of words may be something like this.

I left the computer, relaxed and had a coffee for a few minutes. When I returned to the task the effect had disappeared and I was able to function normally again. However Ive noticed that for some years now I often transpose letters when I type quite ordinary words and have to go back and correct them.

Some years ago I had a colonscopy and took advantage of the anaesthetic offered. When I returned home I dismissed my nephew who had offered to stay with me until bedtime. Shortly after he went I experienced the same effect. I assumed it was some residual effect from the anaesthetic and went to be. When I woke I was fine and have never experienced it since until today.

I did try googling but it only mentions anomic aphasia. In the latter people can still speak and write fluently but the words may lack real substance or sense. This is apparently a progressive neurological condition.

pascal30 Tue 01-Oct-24 10:42:49

Biglouis.. I think you can see from all the postings that people care about you.. I respect what you have said but if you have a stroke that leaves you partially paralysed your ability to do all the activities you love could become nil,, and I think you are fiercely independent..
if you see a GP and get some blood thinners (if it is a TIA) you could have a bit more control of your life at the moment and hopefully in the future.. wishing you well..

Lisaangel10 Tue 01-Oct-24 09:11:56

i had severe migraines and for decades and this doesn’t sound like any of mine.

I wonder if you have an extreme reaction to anaesthetics. If I have just a mild sedative it knocks me right out. I am always told I will feel sleepy but it’s far more than that. Same at the dentists, a mild sedative and I am out of it for hours. Even my acupuncturist says my body is “very accepting”.

rocketstop Tue 01-Oct-24 08:22:41

Hope you are feeling better now biglouis,I know what you mean about doctors !

gentleshores Mon 30-Sept-24 23:27:33

I know what you mean there. A sort of inevitability that maybe something couldn't be done anyway. However it could be reassuring to get checked out.

Do you get migraines at all? I have never had migraines, but had an adverse reaction to a drug once at the dentists - about an hour after I got home. I couldn't co ordinate left from right or speak properly. I was taken to hospital with suspected stroke but all my observations were normal. Kept in overnight - it had improved a bit next day but I was still dizzy.

It had worn off after a couple of days but then I had shortness of breath and chest pains and exhaustion for quite a while.

I saw a neurologist who decided it was a basilar migraine (a rare type of migraine apparently) something to do with the blood brain barrier and the drug. That mimics the symptoms of a stroke but goes away after 48 hours usually.

I think anaesthetic can have after effects as well - with you mentioning you'd had it once before. Mine was after local anaesthetic at the dentist. I'd had something like that before, but that time it was much worse.

I think it can be reassuring just to have your basic observations checked though. It's not always death that is the worry - to me - but the idea of severe disability and not being able to be independent. I'm already physically disabled but still reasonably independent but the idea of being unable to speak and dependent scares me.

Are you on blood thinners at all? My Mother was advised to start taking them at 80 - just in case.

Also maybe quit coffee? :-)

MayBee70 Mon 30-Sept-24 22:58:23

CariadAgain

Re the poster that commented on "keeping regular" - I've never found a need for a drug to "help things on their way". If I realise I'm a bit constipated I just have a day or two having LOADS of plums or prunes and it "moves things onwards" and I'm back to normal.

I’ve just discovered activated charcoal for that. Something I keep in my dogs medicine box because she’s always stealing food that she shouldn’t eat but I tried it on myself. It’s very de toxifying.

Tamayra Mon 30-Sept-24 22:44:32

Suggest a homeopathic remedy to clear remnants of anesthetic out of your system as that seems to be root cause

Kfimbs Mon 30-Sept-24 17:53:11

I would echo those who suggest that you consider that it might be a TIA and urge you to discuss with a GP promptly. If it is, anti platelet medication (aspirin or clopidogrel) will be important to prevent a future TIA or stroke, which might be a peaceful end, but probably wouldn’t be, potentially leading to disability which could make life very difficult. The time of risk for a second TIA or stroke is greatest immediately after a TIA (first week approx) which is why, as per the FAST campaign, people are encouraged to step forward promptly for assessment. Many people start their story with saying something strange happened, or they felt strange and because they don’t feel ill or have pain they don’t act. This is a mistake. Please contact your GP as soon as you can to exclude TIA. PS As an aside, The Stroke Association with NHS England will be running their FAST campaign again this autumn focussing on lesser known symptoms of stroke

MissAdventure Mon 30-Sept-24 17:24:30

Oh, you have my sympathies!!!
I get the visual disturbances occasionally, but there is always that fear that they'll turn into a real humdinger.

Grandyma Mon 30-Sept-24 17:15:27

Certainly sounds like a migraine to me and I’ve been getting them for most of my 70 years.

MissAdventure Mon 30-Sept-24 16:37:54

I used to get those same things happen when I had a migraine.
I also got an aura, beforehand.

sazz1 Mon 30-Sept-24 16:29:24

One of my DC had a strange episode at school. They were partially paralysed down one side with mouth droop and leg dragging along. By the time I got there it had come back to normal but they were talking total rubbish eg part sentences, changing subjects over and over. I was totally convinced it was a small stroke but the triage nurse at A&E assured me it was migraine, that they would vomit soon and get a blinding headache. DC had never had migraine before. I argued with the nurse but took DC home. Nurse was correct, they were sick, then the headache started and they didn't like the light. Saw GP next day and it's called paralytic migraine. DC, now an adult, only gets migraine once or twice a year now and never with those symptoms just the headache.

Silverlady333 Mon 30-Sept-24 15:54:16

I would certainly get this checked out Biglouis. I do not want to sound like a harbinger of doom. However if it was indeed a precursor to something worse you could live to regret it. Not necessarily a pleasant way to die but possibly half a death! If you have a stroke in one hemisphere of your brain it affects the other side of the body. When this happens the patient doesn't even know they have another side to their body. Imagine you can't use your arm or leg on one side, you end up in a wheel chair. If a meal is put in front of you you only see half of it. A carer has to turn your plate around so you can eat all you meal. A carer will have to lift your useless arm up and put it in your lap as it can dangle down and get caught in the spokes of a wheelchair as you are not even aware you still have that arm. your speech may be affected too because that area of your brain has been damaged. Also in my experience those with the most illnesses live the longest as they get more medical care than those who are fit and healthy. Please get yourself medically checked out so you can enjoy the time you have left.

Cateq Mon 30-Sept-24 15:01:56

Dragonfly46 the same thing happened to my DH many years ago and thankfully he’s never had another episode, but very frightening to watch

knspol Mon 30-Sept-24 12:42:44

I have no medical knowledge whatsoever but strongly advise you phone the docs and ask for an urgent appointment. I have no idea what it could be but it's definitely not the usual type of complaint and could be serious or the beginnings of something serious if it isn't all well and good but if it is it d=needs sorting out asap.
Good luck with this.

Gransarethebest Mon 30-Sept-24 12:10:37

Ah yes I have this occasionally with migraines as well, I know then that's its time to take my migraine medication.

CariadAgain Mon 30-Sept-24 12:08:50

Re the poster that commented on "keeping regular" - I've never found a need for a drug to "help things on their way". If I realise I'm a bit constipated I just have a day or two having LOADS of plums or prunes and it "moves things onwards" and I'm back to normal.

CariadAgain Mon 30-Sept-24 12:06:32

biglouis

I havnt had covid (that I know of) so I doubt its long covid.

It can sometimes be difficult to know if one has had Covid. I didn't realise until a few months after the event. I just thought I had a long bad cough (4 weeks worth) and realised after the event that my hearing and sense of smell had been impacted and an osteopath told me "I can always tell when someone has had it - because they've got creaking between this rib and that rib and you have that creaking". I wish I'd realised at the time that that was what the illness was - but, realistically, I had no way of knowing and therefore didn't take the remedy we weren't allowed to get hold of (unless we lived in India for instance) until a few months later - ie when I began to suspect it had been Covid and got that remedy out of my medical box.

Cossy Mon 30-Sept-24 11:57:50

BlueBelle

I think you should have a check up as soon as you can it sounds as if it was something temporary passing over your brain or the part of your brain that deals with words my first thought was TGA but that’s not usually just words but the whole kabush
I d see your GP asap it could be a warning sign

Yes!

MissAdventure Mon 30-Sept-24 09:32:37

biglouis, cirrhosis can affect your thinking, because the toxins that should be excreted by your liver can build up in your system instead.
(Its just the gift that keeps giving)

At the risk of sounding like Timothy's mother, in the programme 'Sorry', are your bowels regular?

That is one way of clearing some of the toxins; prescribed by your gp or gastroenterologist, a large dose of lactulose.

I'm mindful of the fact that internet people shouldnt offer medical advice, so its just something you may want to think about- "keeping regular".
I'm not for one minute suggesting anyone drinks a bucket of laxative!!

nanna8 Mon 30-Sept-24 05:52:01

I would get checked as others have said. Just to be sure it isn’t a TIA or something.

biglouis Mon 30-Sept-24 01:48:33

I havnt had covid (that I know of) so I doubt its long covid.

biglouis Mon 30-Sept-24 01:46:43

Yes it was intended to be "mental" in the title so just another typo. Hardly important in the grand scheme of things.

Caleo Sun 29-Sept-24 14:58:07

Big Louis, I do like your attitude. And I can tell you from my experience of having a stroke, I formed the opinion at the time I was ill that a stroke would be a comparatively pleasant or even not unpleasant way to die.

GrannySomerset Sun 29-Sept-24 14:54:15

I salute you, biglouis, for what strikes me as a very sensible approach to old age. None of us is immortal and when on the last lap it makes perfect sense not to spend time on investigations and ever increasing anxiety. Hope all goes well.

CariadAgain Sun 29-Sept-24 14:44:25

Have you got Long Covid? Brain fog and headaches are amongst the symptoms that can happen after this - which I know because I've been googling around to see why I was mis-typing things, flipping out of consciousness for a few seconds, etc.

I know I've got Long Covid - because I'm still deaf in one ear and still haven't got 95% of my sense of smell back.

It is worrying and I've mentally slapped my face very hard a few times recently - because I know I am very good at typing, for instance, to the extent that I could type away and at a very fast speed in a previous job and, at the same time, I'd be planning what I was having for dinner that night/what I was going to do that evening. So I've absolutely belted my mind one and given it one heck of a lecture for "misbehaving" recently and missing out words/misspelling words/etc. I think, in my case, either it was a pretty temporary blip (now gone) or my mind knows just how ruthless I will be with it if it keeps playing up and is scared stiff of what I might do if you see what I mean. I know I simply wouldn't tolerate my body being that big a nuisance to me personally....

Either way - that blipping seems to have stopped now and my mind is back under my control as usual.