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(122 Posts)āO would some power the giftie gie us, tae see ourselves as others see usā
How do they see us?
Iām not vain (š¤£) but reckon I am reasonably trendily or smartly dressed, no crimplene or beige pleats for me, yes, my hair is white but I aspire to a reasonably edgy cut, and in my heart Iām somewhere around my late 40ās .
I am grateful when sons in law are considerate about walking distances or coping with steps but a bit taken aback when this is commented on. I know, Iām being inconsistent.
But I got the shock of my life last week when I met up with a old friend, three weeks younger than me, whom I have known since my teens but have not seen for a few years.
There was this old lady , quivering chin, struggling to walk, more than a bit vague, and sounding like a poor old dear.
I felt like a spring chicken (and Iām not) by comparison and listening to her she doesnāt seem to do anything more exciting than a weekly trip to the supermarket with her DH. And the āorgan recitalā¦ā
She is lucky still to have him as she no longer drives.
So now I wonder how others see me?
Do the Dās and SILs see an old lady who needs looking after?
Do my friends and neighbours see somebody determined to make the most of my life?
How do you see yourself?. How do others see you?
To be fair, beige can look great.
I think we can never see ourselves as others see us.
We all see things differently when we look at things/people and carry far too much baggage and preconceptions about ourselves to see ourselves objectively anyway. Perhaps itās a good job. We can kid ourselves š
I was shocked when I got a ring door camera. I thought I walked briskly and stood up straight. Sadly I look older than I thought.
I once spotted an older lady in Puerto Banus, dressed in beige and white. She looked absolutelyamazing.
It not about the colour beige, but how you accessorise and style it.
it.
Grannybags
Farzanah
What do they wear fancythat? Genuine question.
Beige!
Whatās this about beige? I think it can look expensive. Iāve just bought a really good quality thicker merino jumper from M&S. which could be described as beige, which I will wear with jeans or fine cord leggings. Some bright primary colours especially in cheap fabrics can look tacky imo.
Farzanah - I'd say "granny blue", "granny lilac" and "granny pink".
Benjamin Moore have made a paint called Grandma's Sweater in nearly the blue I mean.
I used the lock-down time to let my hair colour grow out. I had it cut into a short elfin kind of style which I think suits me better and luckily my white hair is white and shiny. My previous dyed colour was a light to mid brown and my hair is quite thin. I think it looks thicker now which I had not expected. However, I have noticed that people treat me differently now that my hair is white, Shop assistants say "Oh bless". They are all very kind but I definitely sense a change of perception. I am highly articulate, my brain still functions reasonably well for my almost 77 years of age. I dress like I've always dressed, simple cuts, casual clothes but a few more business-like clothes for meetings. So it must be the hair. Had there not been a covid lock-down I would have spent another 10 years of expensive three weekly trips to the hairdresser for colouring and cutting , Now I have a cut and blow dry completed in 30 minutes every five weeks for a lot less than I was paying for having it coloured. So now I am adjusting to being perceived as an old lady but inside I still feel about 40.
I do too.
My dear friend, no longer with us, used to say that I smiled at everyone. That's probably because I'd terrify them otherwise.
Yes I have a resting bitch face. And forehead.
I have to keep reminding myself to look happier. If I try I do feel a bit happier inside.
Greyduster
Bless you, Maw. I donāt think anything would help my face now but a bucketful of Polyfilla, but Iām told I have a lovely smile! Iāll take that.
A very valid point - not the Polyfilla, but the lovely smile - ever since somebody asked what was worrying me, Iāve made the effort for my āresting bitch faceā to be a smile- not a silly grin, more of a Mona Lisa mysterious smile.
How many (older) people do you see with grumpy faces, very ageing especially when compared with happy smiling little people.
A few years back when I thought I was still looking OK I was offered a seat on the Tube when coming back from Kew Gardens. I was carrying a complicated plant support system and I think the young woman thought it was some sort of walking aid....or I just looked older than I thought I did.
On the basis of this thread and because its a bit nippy I put on my smarter than normal Seasalt coat and tidied myself up a bit. Felt a bit chipper.
Iāve found this too. In Durham recently I asked directions from a lady and she told me, and said ābut you have to go down rather a lot of steps. Can you manage or would you like me to see you down them?ā I thanked her for her kindness and declined.
I'm really grateful when people help me on the bus .
One advantage of getting older and struggling a bit (I've been using one of those NHS walking sticks for a while!) is the number of people who offer help, often it's a nice young man š
Bless you, Maw. I donāt think anything would help my face now but a bucketful of Polyfilla, but Iām told I have a lovely smile! Iāll take that.
Greyduster
I can tell you what has happened in the last 2 1/2 years- as if you didnāt know.
You canāt go through the trauma of illness, bereavement, grief and the exhaustion that accompanies them without it showing.
Rest and time for you may help but I am reminded of the lines of the song āMaggieā
Your face is a well- written page, Maggie
But time alone was the pen
(Iād add āgrief and pain to that)
Clarksons in York, HelterSkelter.
That sounds lovely Greyduster. Where is it from? Great over jeans or something smarter. And warm.
I think baggy track suit bottoms and sweatshirts are the kiss of death. Unless you are really exercising or gardening. Even when just at home they make you feel baggy and old.
I feel young in my head , but my body is letting me down .
There are two very distinct reactions -
One friend , who constantly reminds me that I'm elderly .
She has a best friend with exactly the same health problems as I have and listening to her -I'm really not surprised that this friend is grumpy with her .
No one wants to be constantly reminded .
I'm really grateful when people help me on the bus .
I get increasingly fed up at church as I'm always being asked to do extra activities -gardening , bible studies etc .
As it is , I do the church flowers and it's a massive church .
The other flower arrangers struggle to arrange flowers and are difficult to liaise with .
kittylester
Our children certainly don't think of us as old - they are more likely to ask us to help them than to ask if we need any help.
Totally agree with this. I've recently been asked by one of my AC to get rid of a shed and sort out things with the builder!
I'm 76 and since losing a lot of weight a while a go when I was ill I really look it. I have shingles at the moment which means I can't do my excercises in the pool. So I've decided to accept how I look and just aim for being healthy and young thinking. Just lippy, mascara, eyebrows and blusher will do.
Nothing wrong with tweed. Iāve just bought myself a tweed jacket. Beautiful fabric, skilfully tailored, a touch of colour in the mix. I feel like a million dollars in it. Timeless.
Glorify in being so lucky as to live to old age I say and enjoy the moment.
Illness can be a great leveller.
Isn't it just!
As is pain.
Count your blessings, you never know what's waiting round the corner to smack you in the face.
But try to stay cheerful! No-one really wants to hear a litany of ailments.
I know that others see me as much older now by the amount of help I am instantly offered when I am out and about. Very heart warming. My children have always be kind with doing jobs but interestingly, my DH is now much more willing to accept help.
I think it is more noticeable in our movements than in our appearance.
Grannybags
Farzanah
What do they wear fancythat? Genuine question.
Beige!
I am wearing beige today! I can assure you, I am not dressed like an old lady! š
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