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RosiesMaw2 Mon 04-Nov-24 11:07:42

ā€œO would some power the giftie gie us, tae see ourselves as others see usā€

How do they see us?
I’m not vain (🤣) but reckon I am reasonably trendily or smartly dressed, no crimplene or beige pleats for me, yes, my hair is white but I aspire to a reasonably edgy cut, and in my heart I’m somewhere around my late 40’s .
I am grateful when sons in law are considerate about walking distances or coping with steps but a bit taken aback when this is commented on. I know, I’m being inconsistent.
But I got the shock of my life last week when I met up with a old friend, three weeks younger than me, whom I have known since my teens but have not seen for a few years.
There was this old lady , quivering chin, struggling to walk, more than a bit vague, and sounding like a poor old dear.
I felt like a spring chicken (and I’m not) by comparison and listening to her she doesn’t seem to do anything more exciting than a weekly trip to the supermarket with her DH. And the ā€œorgan recitalā€¦ā€
She is lucky still to have him as she no longer drives.
So now I wonder how others see me?
Do the D’s and SILs see an old lady who needs looking after?
Do my friends and neighbours see somebody determined to make the most of my life?
How do you see yourself?. How do others see you?

Grannybags Tue 05-Nov-24 10:05:04

Farzanah

What do they wear fancythat? Genuine question.

Beige!

LucyAnna2 Tue 05-Nov-24 10:01:27

Farzanah

What do they wear fancythat? Genuine question.

Pleated tweedy calf length skirts, twinsets and pearls, brogues, etc I guess. Though an 18 yr old girl could wear those and look ā€˜cool’!

Marydoll Tue 05-Nov-24 09:52:14

In her forties, people thought my mother was my granny. She looked so old and weary. sad

Farzanah Tue 05-Nov-24 09:26:34

What do they wear fancythat? Genuine question.

fancythat Tue 05-Nov-24 09:22:38

What is ā€œdressing oldā€. I honestly have no idea

Oh gosh. I do.

Even when the people who would now be in their 90s, were in their 50s, they looked old. In real life, and in photographs and videos.
I seemed to grow up with a lot of them!

Farzanah Tue 05-Nov-24 09:16:53

What is ā€œdressing oldā€. I honestly have no idea. All my friends wear jeans and casual clothing now. Formal dress for just going out for a coffee seems dated to me.
Some on here say they dress fashionably and smartly, but what is fashionably? Baggy trousers, short skirts?
Dress is obviously important for first impressions but personality and attitude is far far more important.

I don’t know why some feel pride about not looking their age, why? As MOnica says there is a great diversity in looks at any age, and many have a negative stereotype in their heads of what old people look like.

Glorify in being so lucky as to live to old age I say and enjoy the moment.
Illness can be a great leveller.

Greyduster Tue 05-Nov-24 08:19:25

I must admit to being a person who doesn’t pay a lot of attention to how she looks other than a good haircut and not too scary clothes. I’ve always had good skin so used minimal make up, and was always told I didn’t ā€œlook my ageā€. Since DH died, I have certainly begun to look my age. I was looking at some photos that were taken at his funeral and I looked years younger. God knows what has happened in those two and a half years to make me look like a Basset hound. I favour casual clothes but don’t think I ā€œdress oldā€. Last Friday, I joined my son and DiL at their local pub to meet some friends, all of whom are in their mid fifties early sixties, and despite my dusty pink chinos, fair isle sweater and nice smart jacket, I felt very like the aged parent šŸ˜‚! But I’m reasonably fit for my 78 years, can still hold an intelligent conversation, and people can take me as they find me or not at all.

Sara1954 Tue 05-Nov-24 08:07:54

RosiesMaw, I had a similar experience, I was at work, when one of my colleagues came over and said there was an old lady at the counter who would like a word with me.
I went over, big smile, ready to help, when she said, you’re Sara aren’t you? I agreed that I was, we were in Miss Goodings class at junior school, she said.
I couldn’t honestly place her at all, but she looked so old, I couldn’t believe we were contemporaries.
We had a five minute chat about her ailments, and her husband’s ailments, and that was that
But I felt quite depressed afterwards.

Marydoll Tue 05-Nov-24 06:39:09

Sharon, I have one of those kneelers. I still struggle! I spend more time sitting on it, than kneeling.

mum2three, I agree that negative thinking plays a part in seeming older. Recently I was described as ebullient and youthful, no point in moaning all the time.

Looks don`t matter neither do clothes nor beautifying adornments
I tend to disagree Karma. The moment I stop looking after my appearance, is the moment I have given up. DH knows I am struggling, by what I am wearing.

Also, I have noticed the difference in how people are treated at medical appointments (rightly or wrongly) depending on how they look and present themselves.

karmalady Tue 05-Nov-24 06:19:58

Who cares, people see this smiley friendly chatty active and strong small person with wrinkles. Always busy, liking to be busy, helpful to others. doing maintenance, digging, sawing trees, clearing my allotment. 76 and what they see is how they hope they might age. Looks don`t matter neither do clothes nor beautifying adornments

grandMattie Tue 05-Nov-24 05:49:26

I probably look my age - white hair, collapsed face/bat wings, but… apart from slight aphasia, I’m mentally fighting fit. I walk everywhere or take a bus as I no longer have a car.
Yes, I’m old at 76 but in much better shape mentally and physically than many of my peers. It at be because I’m very lucky to have very little wrong with me - the ā€œorgan recital ā€œ would take seconds!

Dogwalkingnana Tue 05-Nov-24 04:46:55

Recently I was with my 6-year-old grandson. He was showing me some very realistic rubber snakes he has. I said that I hoped they wouldn't eat me. He told me they wouldn't because I'm too wrinkly! I'll turn 78 next month. Wow! Ever since my husband's sister died from cancer at age 59, I have just been grateful to be alive and healthy. I have osteoporosis and am careful about what shoes I wear and need to get back to doing strength training. I stopped going to a class because of Covid and I have gotten weaker. In my mind, I'm about 30.

mum2three Tue 05-Nov-24 04:43:32

You can tell a person's age from the way they walk. Older people tend to walk stiffly as though they are walking on eggshells. Younger people tend to stride along confidently.
My neighbour is exactly the same age as me but seems much older. It's partly her attitude, a negative thinker, but also because she has a lot of health problems. At the moment, my age is no barrier to my activities. I'm thankful.

HelterSkelter1 Tue 05-Nov-24 04:07:37

I hope your friend isnt on Gransnet RosiesMaw2 and recognises herself!!
I am 75 and feel that my health and worries about DH have aged me in the last year. I must pull my socks up. Lack of sleep doesn't help at all...wideawake now at 4.00 am.

Car drivers stop to let me cross the road more than ever before. A mixed blessing.

Usedtobeblonde Tue 05-Nov-24 01:20:32

I have always been told that I don’t look my age… until recently.
At 87 I suddenly have aged, I think it is inevitable that age catches up with you.
My mobility has worsened and I stoop more, that is very aging I think.

Curlywhirly Tue 05-Nov-24 00:18:23

I'm told I don't look my age (I'm 68) but I think it's because I'm small. I am still very active, happy to crawl on the floor with the grandkids and still climb on the kitchen base units to reach the upper shelves of the wall cupboards. In my head, I still think I'm in my 30s, but a close look in the mirror and few aches and pains remind me that I'm not! My fashion choices haven't changed much over the years, I have always preferred fitted tailored clothes (as I'm small, loose, baggy clothes look dreadful on me). I try to look after myself as much as I can, grey roots done every 6 weeks and I wear some makeup every day. I do tend to agree that if you feel old, you look old.

sharon103 Mon 04-Nov-24 23:55:19

Marydoll

I forgot to add, I still have my red hair at 69, never coloured it. It now looks as if it has blonde highlights, which are actually white hair.
I think that makes me look younger.

I have to get down on my hands and knees on a pad to do the weeding.
Sharon, if I got down on my knees, I would never get back up again.

My neighbour came over to speak to me in the garage. She couldn't see me, because I was crawling along the floor, trying to get up after attempting to go into the bottom shelf of the freezer.

It's a bit of a challenge to get back up again Marydoll. ha ha! The summer before I lost balance and rolled over on my side. I had to roll back and got back up like a crab.
I'm thinking of getting one of those kneelers that you can turn upside down and there's bars to hold on to.
What a state to get in to. smile

welbeck Mon 04-Nov-24 23:24:46

Marydoll
sounds like a sudden attack of acute agoraphobia that drove you to try to get into a drawer of the freezer.
Glad it passed even if it did leave you crawling about for a while.

Kate1949 Mon 04-Nov-24 20:07:43

Thank you Allira. I can't take the credit. It's not my hair but don't tell anyone!

Allira Mon 04-Nov-24 19:42:04

Kate1949

I'm 75. No beige for me. Mother Nature hasn't been kind to me - hair loss, teeth loss. I have fought back as best I can. This is me (sort of) at a party last Saturday.

I love your hair!

Can't wear mine long because it makes my face look 'dragged down' so some might think I have an 'old lady style, but I hope not!
The mirror at the hairdressers today was most unflattering and I did think "Surely that's not me?" 😯

Redhead56 Mon 04-Nov-24 19:22:07

My granddaughters often ask me where my red hair has gone I say it just happens as you age. I have never bothered to dye it I just accept it as it is now.

M0nica Mon 04-Nov-24 18:51:24

I have no sense of age, and never have had. I am just continuing to be myself, whatever that may mean.

Jaxjacky Mon 04-Nov-24 17:22:24

Never really thought about it really, a bit too navel gazing for me.
Although I do agree with Boz company is good, preferably that which makes you laugh, I’ve a great group of friends and acquaintances of various ages and just a few days ago I cried with laughter. They don’t care how I’m dressed or that I never wear make up, I’ve known them for years and they are valued.

Marydoll Mon 04-Nov-24 16:51:55

I forgot to add, I still have my red hair at 69, never coloured it. It now looks as if it has blonde highlights, which are actually white hair.
I think that makes me look younger.

I have to get down on my hands and knees on a pad to do the weeding.
Sharon, if I got down on my knees, I would never get back up again.

My neighbour came over to speak to me in the garage. She couldn't see me, because I was crawling along the floor, trying to get up after attempting to go into the bottom shelf of the freezer.

sharon103 Mon 04-Nov-24 16:00:06

I'm 70 in December and dread the thought!
I guess you could call me quite vain. Make-up goes on every day. The thought of the face and body, the face mainly, going wrinkly and droopy fills me with dread.
I still colour my hair. Thinner than it used to be.
I wear casual but fashionable clothes. Always jeans.
I say what I think but respect other peoples opinions.
I'm a people pleaser but gradually learning to say no.
I'm as daft as a brush when I'm with children.
I have to get down on my hands and knees on a pad to do the weeding. My back won't tolerate me to stand up and bend over to do it.
I'm young at heart. I like to stay home more these days.
Getting more 'can't be bothered' days. So yes I'm probably winding down a touch.
I've always said I don't want to live to be old. I've seen too much of what old can do.