One in four children start school in nappies

I had my children in the late 60s and early 70s and we only had Terry towelling nappies! No disposables! My children hated nappies when they started walking! Bulky and uncomfortable and were glad to get out of them! Also it was such a big hassle for mums!soaking, boiling, drying (nappies not children!) disposable nappies appear to be too comfy and don’t feel uncomfy when wet. Persevere with fabric nappies mums of today! Better for environment and better for your offspring! Mine were both dry and clean by 2 years old.
I expect some flak from this, time consuming washing drying etc, but give it a try,! Teachers and assistants have better things to do!

In the very early 1970's in Britain, many mothers (like me) ignorant of how to care for a baby, bought the Dr. Benjamin Spock, "Baby & Childcare" book, for the latest trendy child- rearing ideas. I notice original copies of this book can still be bought on-line - and are ridiculously high prices for the second hand paper-back version! I am not sure if I read it again that I would still agree with Dr. Spock's ideas.

There are washable nappies now that are incorporated into waterproof pants that come in a variety of fancy designs. No safety pins just lots of poppers that adjust for growth.

They aren’t white either, more a sort of greyish soft cotton and a liner is inserted that gets disposed of. Then into a sealed bucket with a solution, then into the washer at 40degrees.

Here's the front cover

I was enjoying going down memory lane with pilches and gowns.

When DD became a mum I found a book on the history of childcare through the ages to amuse her. But she found it horrifying and threw it out.
Another one was the Motherhood book.

Exactly, Allira. A very strange comment.

infoman

Back on track with not being potty trained when at school for the first time.
The school have to take some of the blame,the schools are quit happy to take the money for each pupil they admit.
So maybe the school/s should ask if the child is toilet trained.

Its the same with being bullied at school,the school says we don't mind the money we get for the bully,but the school is quite happy to allow a bullied person to get bullied and won't do anything against the perpetrator.

What a strange post.

LEAs have a duty to provide education for all children in their area. Schools cannot exclude children except on grounds of extreme behaviour.
Even then it can take a considerable time to find an alternative, suitable placement.

infoman

Back on track with not being potty trained when at school for the first time.
The school have to take some of the blame,the schools are quit happy to take the money for each pupil they admit.
So maybe the school/s should ask if the child is toilet trained.

Its the same with being bullied at school,the school says we don't mind the money we get for the bully,but the school is quite happy to allow a bullied person to get bullied and won't do anything against the perpetrator.

Schools can ask, but are you claiming that they are allowed to turn children away if they are not toilet trained?

It would certainly be an incentive for those parents who want a place at a particular school.
However it doesn’t work like that, at least got LEA schools.
LEA schools admission arrangements are decided by the LEA. The school gets a list of children who have been given a place.

Academy admission arrangements are decided by the academy trust but are still administered by the LEA.

infoman That's a very strange way of describing the supportive lengths school staff actually go to when faced with such problems.

There's no point in my writing what happens in the independent sector, it's different, but I'm sure someone will be along to confirm that the money issue is not the initial priority in state school settings.

Back on track with not being potty trained when at school for the first time.
The school have to take some of the blame,the schools are quit happy to take the money for each pupil they admit.
So maybe the school/s should ask if the child is toilet trained.

Its the same with being bullied at school,the school says we don't mind the money we get for the bully,but the school is quite happy to allow a bullied person to get bullied and won't do anything against the perpetrator.

Babygros were just coming in in 1970 when DS1 arrived. There was a worry about them constricting baby's growing feet.
But booties were kicked off immediately!

So cute in those gowns though-like tiny angels. But they required more layers such as a sleep cardigan top sheet, blankets,,quilts, and mitts and booties in cold weather.
Shawls aren’t as common now either.

Yes, my DS wore nightgowns at night as it was far too hot that summer for Babygros.
Don't tell him!
He was quite the bruiser in it! Mine too.

I made a nightgown for my firstborn. I even embroidered the bodice. Ofcourse I didn't know in advance if it would be a boy or girl.
He was quite the bruiser in it!
I drew the line at 3 ply pilches.

Farzanah

Thanks for putting me right re Scandinavian children Mollygo 😀

Don’t get me wrong, it was a great step forward when the EYFS curriculum replaced the “Reception class” so that other progress besides reading and writing is seen as important.

Thanks for putting me right re Scandinavian children Mollygo 😀

I had a very old photo of my dad wearing a dress as a baby but after searching for it to post on here can’t find it anywhere.
Doesn’t matter at that age. I find grow suits fiddly with all those poppers.

Yes, that would make sense. I have an old photo of some unknown relative in a dress and I’m sure it’s a boy.

Oh dear, the knitting pattern looks like it dates from when I was a baby. Mum certainly did a lot of knitting!

ixion

Allira

silverlining48

Twas ever thus grammaretto.
I have never heard of pilchers …assume knicker things for over nappies? Not that any young or older mum would want the pattern I assume…

He or she doesn't look very happy.
Perhaps has a wet nappy.

Patons and Baldwins too!

It's like a Museum of Curiosities now, isn't it?

It's like a Museum of Curiosities now, isn't it?

This is probably why little boys wore dresses years ago so that a wet nappy could be whipped off more easily and also it would have been easier for potty training.

I remember my Mum telling me about this and when little boys went into boys' shorts it was called breeching.

😁

I never knitted any pilches.
Probably in 3-ply as well.

Allira

silverlining48

Twas ever thus grammaretto.
I have never heard of pilchers …assume knicker things for over nappies? Not that any young or older mum would want the pattern I assume…

He or she doesn't look very happy.
Perhaps has a wet nappy.

Patons and Baldwins too!

It's like a Museum of Curiosities now, isn't it?

I think some parents don't realise that most children don't learn to use a toilet by magic. Like some parents somehow expect children to learn to talk without talking/reading/singing to them.

As said above parenting is hard work.

Farzanah
I think children start formal learning too soon in this country, and Scandinavian children don’t seem to be disadvantaged by starting later.
There are lots of issues in that statement, but the expectations of what children in Scandinavian pre-school are expected to develop are enormous and include some aspects of what you are probably referring to as formal education.
They also include moving children on from whatever knowledge, understanding and skills they have already acquired- and thats at pre-school.

That was what I used to say. I think amongst all the fluffy or sentimental stuff that accompanies pregnancy and childbirth what is overlooked nowdays is the sheer bloody hard work and dedication that parenting demands especially if you are doing it alone.
Most of it is unseen but vital for their welfare.

It’s tough for teachers if children are still in nappies when they start school, but some children may regress to wetting because of a new situation anyway.

I think children start formal learning too soon in this country, and Scandinavian children don’t seem to be disadvantaged by starting later.

Most children want to conform and will soon copy others, unless they have a learning difficulty or occasionally slow to mature. I don’t believe any children start secondary school in nappies, so perhaps we should be more relaxed and less judgmental maybe?