I never thought I would start a Meghan and Harry thread but...... had gone

Anniebach

Thank you crossstitchfan it was the public and the press who
barked on about the Queen, not the village. Same when Diana died, ‘your country needs you’ !
Prince Phillip came to Aberfan the following day, no handshakes, spoke to several people. Came back for the funeral. The Crown piled much on with ‘the Queen didn’t cry’
not true but she did so privately in a home of bereaved families.

The press are usually at fault when incorrect information is given, I find. On the odd occasion I have been featured in a newspaper (because of my job) I have almost always been misquoted. You learn to say very little after a while.

Thank you crossstitchfan it was the public and the press who
barked on about the Queen, not the village. Same when Diana died, ‘your country needs you’ !
Prince Phillip came to Aberfan the following day, no handshakes, spoke to several people. Came back for the funeral. The Crown piled much on with ‘the Queen didn’t cry’
not true but she did so privately in a home of bereaved families.

I should have said Aberfan ‘disaster’ not situation. Apologies to all who suffered, and are still suffering the effects of that.

One thing that really gets me is that, whenever there is a dreadful crisis somewhere, certain royals think it would be appreciated if they go to the place ‘to show support’. So the town council etc have to move heaven and earth to accommodate them swanning around, while at the same time trying to deal with the crisis. I remember first noticing this with the dreadful Aberfan situation in 1966. I seem to remember the Queen held back, so as not to intrude, but was heavily criticised for it. They can’t do right for doing wrong and, like them or loathe them, there will always be someone who finds fault whatever they do.

Re the spare, Diana caused much of Harry’s problems, she was damaged by the knowledge that she was daughter 3, her parents wanted a son, along comes a son, poor Diana.
Diana referred to Harry as the spare,

Previous generations, George 6 was second in line, was a good king and had support of two younger brothers.
Margaret was rather wild, but there was never a sign of jealousy, she remained loyal to the late Queen.

Harry has been badly damaged by Megan who claims she is in
touch with Diana. Why oh why did she want photograph of
Diana in the Labour room, only since their marriage has Harry
become fixated on being second born.

Can it be the second born,- Margaret. Andrew Harry had a life of freedom compared to Charles, Elizabeth, William

If H&M had ‘stuck around’ longer, I think things would have worked out better for them.

Covid came, which rather put the kibosh on all their original plans in the USA. If they had been here, and not flounced off, in lockdown they would have had quite a breathing space and a degree of privacy away from the usual royal engagements.

Given Meghan a chance to settle in.

And all the fuss about Archie not having a title. If they had held their horses, that issue would have been resolved upon the Queen’s death. (Although he could have had an Earldom in the meantime, which wasn’t good enough).

And then last year, with the King’s and POW’s cancer diagnosis, they could have stepped up and made a real contribution and endeared themselves to the public.

But no, Meghan just couldn’t wait, could she?

Which is why they are in a sort of limbo, neither royal nor private citizens.

A mess.

Syracute

The usual suspects here with daggers out for Harry and Meghan.
Perhaps, instead of all this negativity, everyone make a donation as not all the victims are rich and many wildlife rescues or pet rescues would welcome the aid .

Oh, I doubt many Gransnetters are in a position to send aid to the USA, however sorry they feel for those people (and believe me, I do).
After all, the world's wealthiest billionaires are resident there and could pay the cost of rebuilding homes for poorer residents without making much dent in their wealth.

If you read Spare, I did, the overall feeling is one of being constantly second best, just because of the order of birth. I can see how this could be painful, feeling that your sibling will always be deemed to be so much more important. And it puts pressure on the family how to handle it too.
Perhaps Harry feels he is trying to do better by his own children. The sad thing is that if Harry had stuck around longer, he might have discovered that his brother and wife are at pains to ensure this doesn't happen to their own children in the future, and the pressure would be off everyone.

Anniebach

Quote Norah Mon 13-Jan-25 22:47:58
Anniebach
Her father has had 2 heart attacks and a stoke, his father has cancer ,in danger ? depends on one’s view of illness in parents in their late 70’s . I accept we all have different standards
I actually have no idea if the RF travel to each other.

They all deserve privacy to their travels to and fro.

You just said you knew H had visited his father

I wrote "Thought I read, here on GN, that PH stopped in to see the King during his cancer treatment. Perhaps I'm wrong, happens."

I thought I read on GN however, I certainly know nothing.

I assume he did, as a son would, fly over for a visit. Did he?

Yes Norah

Harry flew over to see his father after being told about his cancer diagnosis.

You are confused, there are some posting on this thread who
dislike liars and attention seekers, so unpleasant

The usual suspects here with daggers out for Harry and Meghan.
Perhaps, instead of all this negativity, everyone make a donation as not all the victims are rich and many wildlife rescues or pet rescues would welcome the aid .

RosiesMaw2

nanna8

See ya, wouldn’t want to be ya. 👋

This is an incredibly immature not to say downright childish “playground” comment!

Who is it aimed at? And why do you feel the need to be so personally insulting anyway?

Oh dear, humour by pass. Never mind.

Quote Norah Mon 13-Jan-25 22:47:58
Anniebach
Her father has had 2 heart attacks and a stoke, his father has cancer ,in danger ? depends on one’s view of illness in parents in their late 70’s . I accept we all have different standards
I actually have no idea if the RF travel to each other.

They all deserve privacy to their travels to and fro.

You just said you knew H had visited his father

Yes and gave an interview on American television after, no other member of the family did this.

M&H had no problem with their Oprah interview being aired
whilst Prince Phillip lay dying .

Anniebach

Her father has had 2 heart attacks and a stoke, his father has cancer ,in danger ? depends on one’s view of illness in parents in their late 70’s . I accept we all have different standards

I actually have no idea if the RF travel to each other.

They all deserve privacy to their travels to and fro.

Anniebach

Her father has had 2 heart attacks and a stoke, his father has cancer ,in danger ? depends on one’s view of illness in parents in their late 70’s . I accept we all have different standards

Thought I read, here on GN, that PH stopped in to see the King during his cancer treatment. Perhaps I'm wrong, happens

Her father has had 2 heart attacks and a stoke, his father has cancer ,in danger ? depends on one’s view of illness in parents in their late 70’s . I accept we all have different standards

Louella12

I lived there.

Maybe they went in their private plane.

Their kindness does not extend to their family. Some people find that rather unkind.

You carry on supporting them. No skin off my nose.

I don't I support them. I merely see no reason to be upset at their actions, helping in a disaster. I find it a kind endeavour.

Their family? I've no opinion, apart from assuming their family aren't in danger. Has the King said he's distraught his son volunteers?

LucyAnna4

There have been terrible disasters in the past and celebrity involvement has often been beneficial in spreading the word, gaining publicity and help.

*Band Aid / Live Aid……..*

It is not what you do, but the way that you do it, and yes, fame and celebrity can give you leverage. BandAid raised £millions for famine relief, aand other well known groups and individuals have done similar things.

But, celebrities, generally know better than to drop into somewhere glad handing people when a crisis is at its height.
What the Duke and Duchess did was the equivalent of dropping buy Grenfell towers at the height of the fire and glad handing the firemen and the building's traumatised residents.

Yes, royalty do visit catatstrophe sites, but not during the event but at a time carefully arranged for when it will cause least disruption and usually at the invitation of those involved.

I lived there.

Maybe they went in their private plane.

Their kindness does not extend to their family. Some people find that rather unkind.

You carry on supporting them. No skin off my nose.

Louella12

Norah

In the picture I saw of them they were in jeans and ball caps, I doubt anyone apart from 100s of TV cameras even knew they were there.

It's always nice to help the area in which you live, I think.

90 miles away.

Have you driven LA? No distance at all for Americans.

They also look at a private area which had been fenced off, they posed for group photographs, and served meals in less than an hour

At a camp where evacuees were starting to assemble. They served food and donated goods, based on reports. Not sure how much closer they were supposed to be?

I still have not found proof they brought their own camera crew.

People can see through them Claremont. Apparently she thought it would reflect well on her and boost her cooking show. However, due to the immense backlash they’ve now faced Netflix insisted she postponed its launch until March. All this is from US news websites not UK. They are disgusted.