So many shops closing, so much online shopping

Isn’t haberdashery a great word? I don’t suppose young people have a clue what it is😁

Oreo

Isn’t haberdashery a great word? I don’t suppose young people have a clue what it is😁

Some schoolchildren will as they go to Haberdashers' Schools

Ha ha. Yes. A great word. Nicer than
Ironmongery and Drapery.

Confectionary survives I think...

Allira

Oreo

Isn’t haberdashery a great word? I don’t suppose young people have a clue what it is😁

Some schoolchildren will as they go to Haberdashers' Schools

As my aunt did 😊

NotSpaghetti

Ha ha. Yes. A great word. Nicer than
Ironmongery and Drapery.

Confectionary survives I think...

Confectionery certainly does.

Hosiery is another word that I doubt youngsters would know.
When I was shopping for new clothes and shoes this week (an extremely rare occurrence) I was so impressed by the friendly helpful service of the lady in one clothes shop and the young girl in a shoe shop. It made the experience very pleasant. I had always enjoyed working with the customers when I worked in a large shop years ago. There's something important about human interaction.

Yes! Hosiery - available in mum's habberdashers and dad's shop too!

RosieandherMaw

Let’s face it, life is constantly changing.
If GN had existed in the 60’s and 70’s there would have been endless threads on the rise of supermarkets, no more Mr Bun the Baker or Mr Green the Grocer, no more blue sugar paper-wrapped dry goods. Then Green Shield Stamps came and went.
No more genteel ladies’ outfitters or milliners and the Four Candles sketch would go over most Gen Z heads!
Hardening of the attitudes is a pernicious disease of the elderly - we should guard against it!

Of course RosieandherMaw is correct.

How would we be communicating on GN without internet? How did my granny survive without a refrigerator and freezer? Life changes.

Hardening of the attitudes - I love that turn of phrase! Life certainly does change - and we need to change and adapt along with it.

If I told my friend I was going to harden my attitudes, he would think I was going to join a gym.

Aveline

Hosiery is another word that I doubt youngsters would know.
When I was shopping for new clothes and shoes this week (an extremely rare occurrence) I was so impressed by the friendly helpful service of the lady in one clothes shop and the young girl in a shoe shop. It made the experience very pleasant. I had always enjoyed working with the customers when I worked in a large shop years ago. There's something important about human interaction.

It depends on the individual. My daughter loves to do local shopping and be on friendly terns with assistants, but then she lives in Chorlton, Manchester with its buzzy vibe.
I live in the sticks and need internet shopping; I also am past being 'sold' stuff by an assistant - too distracting as I am an old, seasoned shopper who knows the game.
I am amused by human interaction though. I just love those local shops for local people where you are eyed a bit warily!

Hosiery is another word that I doubt youngsters would know

They probably don’t know what a gusset is either.

(Nothing to do with the shops mentioned, but I felt there was a similarity).

Totally off topic here but last night on The Apprentice one of the contestants didn't know what rhubarb was.

Norah for many years we had neither fridge nor freezer. It wasn't till the 1990s we had one.
We always had a pantry which was fine. We pickled and bottled produce, bought dry foods (lentils, chick peas, rice, sultanas etc) in bulk - it wasn't really difficult because we were a big enough family that nothing much was ever given time to go off!

I’m amazed by pictures of American fridges, the size of a wardrobe. They seem to keep all food and drink in there. I only put perishable items in my fridge - dairy and salad and meat for the cats and dog. Not fruit or vegetables or bread.
I have a pantry for everything else.

Not every house has a pantry’!
It’s like “some people park on the street, we always put our car (s) in our 5 car garage”
Smug?

I'd love a pantry!

In the meantime I'll have to make do with my large fridge/freezer.
Smug, moi?

NotSpaghetti

Norah for many years we had neither fridge nor freezer. It wasn't till the 1990s we had one.
We always had a pantry which was fine. We pickled and bottled produce, bought dry foods (lentils, chick peas, rice, sultanas etc) in bulk - it wasn't really difficult because we were a big enough family that nothing much was ever given time to go off!

There was a recent thread questioning American style fridge freezers, we've a large Bosch. I suppose I was thinking to that thread. A pantry is lovely.

If I had ever been lucky enough to build my own house I would like to have a pantry again, Norah

RosieandherMaw

Not every house has a pantry’!
It’s like “some people park on the street, we always put our car (s) in our 5 car garage”
Smug?

If you live in an old house, even a very old one, you may well have a pantry. In the 19th century almost every little terrace house had one.

My grandmother lived in a small stock 1930s semi. The area under the stairs was divided into 3 cupboards. the tall thin one by the kitchen door was used as, and called, 'the pantry'.

DD lives in an original Garden City ex council house. It was built with a pantry. In her case, the space was later incorporated into a kitchen extension. She is now moving to a modern house and has already decided that she will use a cupboard in the hall near the kitchen as a pantry. Nothing smug ot boastful about having a pantry.

Come to that, plenty of quite modest homes in rural areas have lots of off road parking. We had a Victorian semi on a corner plot in a town with a road running down the side, We had a double garage and off road parking for more cars, the identical other half to our semi had no off road parking at all because they had no side access.

Ou fail to get my point M0nica.

“You” sorry!

What did you mean then RosieandherMaw?

It's not just M0nica who failed to get your point...

...undoubtedly because I've had a pantry

Mum and Dad bought their first fridge in 1959. I was nearly 2y old, she was expecting my brother and fed up having to shop every day.

As a child in the 60s I remember my Granny having a tall, pale blue, round topped, gas-powered fridge that lived in the dining room. We children thought it was amazing!

My Grandma had a pantry off the hall as M0nica describes. It had an air brick to the outside to keep it cold.
I can't remember her having a fridge, though presumably she did in later years.

Just that it’s easy to say “I have a pantry” or “I have a cellar “ (I used to have one and it was invaluable) when modern houses
a) are not built with one because of demands of space
b) have more appliances than our mothers/grandmothers had
c) are generally much warmer than a generation ago
d) may now have , if we are lucky, utility rooms instead but that may house a boiler and be too warm for fresh food storage.
Just as we no longer have meat safes, keep our milk in a bowl of cold water or our butter on a marble slab - kitchens have , for the most part, changed except for those living in period houses with kitchens, sculleries, larders and pantries behind that green baize door.