Wales really does look after its young guns

Just saw this today
news.stv.tv/west-central/hundreds-to-take-part-in-scotlands-first-free-public-transport-trial

I live in an area similar to yourself 4allweknow and the issue of bus passes to under 22's has caused real problems. The two main bus routes pass two high schools and we are finding that from 3.30pm (12.30pm on Friday) until 5.30pm it is nearly impossible to get from here to town. When getting the bus to town the teenagers (being fitter than most adults that use the bus) manage to commandeer three nearby bus stops and it is chaos from 5.00pm trying to get a when they have finished wandering round town and have to get back home as obviously most of them live not far from their school. As for behaviour and bad language that's a whole other story!!!!

Allira

Just over the border in England it costs £5 per day per child to get to school and college.

Not in London. We have youth Oyster cards. Pretty sure they're free.

We are very lucky to have free bus travel for certain agr groups here in Scotland. Unfortunately I think I have managed to use my free bus pass twice in five years are there are hardly any buses where I live!

infoman

population of
Wales 3,107 500
population of Scotland 5,400 000
England population 56,489 000

Hospital car parking charges in England SKY HIGH
Wales "NO CHARGE"

Wales "NO CHARGE"
But nowhere to park!

Apologies for typing errors, having real eye problems today.

WhenIwasyourage. So the reports of bad behaviour by youths on buses are fictitious? The local rag where I live is constantly reporting about verbal and sometimes physical abuse to both drivers and passengers. The terminus is avoided after 6 pm as youths now congregate awaiting any bus to use as a space for their own aims. Yes, free bus travel for over 60s, that's if you can find a bus. I have to walk ine andca half miles to a bus stop, diwn a busy A road with very narrow pavement, couldn't take pushchair abd tgen ut takes 45 mins to town centre as bus basically covers half the town in its route. Or, I can catch another that runs every two hours, but stops between 3 pm and 6 pm (needed for school runs) and doesn't run on a Sunday. Oh, and by tge way I luve in a town, not way out in the countryside. The bus pass is free but just how much does it actually cost nowadays compared to when it was first issued given the reduced bus provision.

population of
Wales 3,107 500
population of Scotland 5,400 000
England population 56,489 000

Hospital car parking charges in England SKY HIGH
Wales "NO CHARGE"

CarS

Does anyone understand the way Reform Party is heading on the NHS? Also does anyone believe a straightforward cash injections can actually save it in its present form if we carry on the way we have been? The way I read it, they are "Open" on this" and suggestions have been put forward. Genuine question. Anyone throw any light on this? It really is worth investigating isn't it and I really don't know. Be nice ladies...........

This thread is about Wales, bus fares and young people.

Perhaps it might be better to start another thread, CarS as your post could get lost on here. I don't think there are any Reform MPs in Wales (I could be wrong).

Does anyone understand the way Reform Party is heading on the NHS? Also does anyone believe a straightforward cash injections can actually save it in its present form if we carry on the way we have been? The way I read it, they are "Open" on this" and suggestions have been put forward. Genuine question. Anyone throw any light on this? It really is worth investigating isn't it and I really don't know. Be nice ladies...........

Cateq

In Scotland young people between 16-22 can get a young Scot card which gives them free bus travel in Scotland

The problem is when you live on a border, bus passes can't always be used in the other country.

In Scotland young people between 16-22 can get a young Scot card which gives them free bus travel in Scotland

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Casdon

I can’t think of anywhere here with road markings, except outside schools, but I guess there must be. As long as the cost of changing things doesn’t come out of the potholes budget.

Worse just over the border!

Don’t get excited, Welsh Government are useless, they don’t do much else for children.

Meanwhile Hampshire County Council is changing the use of disabled bus passes, from April 1st they can’t be used before 9:30 am, affecting all disabled students and workers, some of whom face significant challenges travelling already

I can’t think of anywhere here with road markings, except outside schools, but I guess there must be. As long as the cost of changing things doesn’t come out of the potholes budget.

Yes, the 30mph signs are still there, as a warning to slow down as you approach 20mph, I thought.
Some 20mph signs have been spray painted but there are road markings.

Allira

Casdon

I just saw on Wales Online that Monmouthshire is not changing any of its 20mph limits Allira, so we’ll still have to keep our wits about us. I don’t know what’s happening in Powys yet, but I wish that if there are 30mph and 20mph signs close together they would make their minds up and make the whole stretch of road one speed or the other, instead of wearing out our gearboxes constantly changing from one speed to another.

In a local paper, Torfaen, Blaenau Gwent, Newport are changing some roads, Monmouthshire none.

It's costing millions again.

I don’t think it will cost much in Powys to be fair, because they have left up the former 30mph signs, and then put the new 20mph signs about 30feet in from them. The only cost will be uprooting the 20mph signs where they decide they aren’t necessary now. We must be cheapskates here.

Only a temporary issue infoman as we will all be driving electric soon. Plus of course the hundreds of people who would have been killed if we didn’t have 20mph limits will be alive and able to drive them.

Casdon

I just saw on Wales Online that Monmouthshire is not changing any of its 20mph limits Allira, so we’ll still have to keep our wits about us. I don’t know what’s happening in Powys yet, but I wish that if there are 30mph and 20mph signs close together they would make their minds up and make the whole stretch of road one speed or the other, instead of wearing out our gearboxes constantly changing from one speed to another.

In a local paper, Torfaen, Blaenau Gwent, Newport are changing some roads, Monmouthshire none.

It's costing millions again.

20mph speeds are double edge swords.
Cars in 1st and 2nd gears create more pollution,
So what we end up with is less pedestrians being killed and injured,but then suffering from more asthma attacks.

I just saw on Wales Online that Monmouthshire is not changing any of its 20mph limits Allira, so we’ll still have to keep our wits about us. I don’t know what’s happening in Powys yet, but I wish that if there are 30mph and 20mph signs close together they would make their minds up and make the whole stretch of road one speed or the other, instead of wearing out our gearboxes constantly changing from one speed to another.

nahsma

Poppyred

Meanwhile all us oldies spend years on NHS waiting lists……but hey ho it takes years to get from A to B with the 20 miles an hour speed limit. The Welsh Labour government is a joke!

The 20mph speed limit increases journey time minimally - it only applies in built-up areas. Are you so important/uncaring that you can't spare a couple of minutes to save lives? Reduced speeds means far fewer pedestrians killed in accidents, and much lower pollution levels. You may view that as a “joke”. Most of us think it's a good idea to try to save lives.

Except it is being reversed in many places.

Poppyred

Meanwhile all us oldies spend years on NHS waiting lists……but hey ho it takes years to get from A to B with the 20 miles an hour speed limit. The Welsh Labour government is a joke!

The 20mph speed limit increases journey time minimally - it only applies in built-up areas. Are you so important/uncaring that you can't spare a couple of minutes to save lives? Reduced speeds means far fewer pedestrians killed in accidents, and much lower pollution levels. You may view that as a “joke”. Most of us think it's a good idea to try to save lives.