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Crufts 2025, Love it or Hate it?

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MayBee70 Fri 07-Mar-25 23:33:22

They’ve been giving some very good advice this week. I think Clare is a very good presenter and she genuinely loves dogs. If anyone has read her book, My Animals and Other Family, she was pretty much reared by the family’s Boxers who seemed far more maternal than her mother.

Babs03 Fri 07-Mar-25 21:41:46

I love dogs and would hope that the show dogs on Crufts actually enjoy the experience, but I wonder if it is all part of a circuit and they are just shipped from one contest to another with trophies and rosettes displayed by the owners in their homes. I fear it might be, and that would not be enjoyable for the dogs.
The trouble is dogs are usually amenable and will do as their owner bids them to do, and so end up in shows like this, you would never find any self respecting cat agreeing to it.

Iam64 Fri 07-Mar-25 21:28:01

Good post Allira. The couple who bred my lab are at `crufts as are other people I know. I’m aware the KC isn’t perfect and agree with concerns that breed standard has caused problems in some breeds. German Shepherds my biggest worry, with those extended low backs thst legs seem unable to support. Having said that, there are 6 young GSD’s in our training group, with strong healthy outlines and great temperament.

I’m more worried about unscrupulous puppy farms, hobby breeders, poodles crossed with any breed with no regard for health or temperament. Thousands charged, pups sold to first time owners who leave the pup 8-10 hours because they work.
Etc. no wonder we have so many dogs in rescue with behavioural problems

Claire Balding did a good interview with a vet and behaviourist -min the show educates 2 people, it’s work is done

Allira Fri 07-Mar-25 21:02:35

I knew someone who was a judge at Crufts.
She looked for good breed characteristics and temperament.
As a breeder herself, she knew what made a winner and it wasn't unnatural breeding.

ayse Fri 07-Mar-25 20:56:02

A beauty parade for dogs!

Allira Fri 07-Mar-25 20:54:25

Claremont

merlotgran

Allsorts

I feel a bit sorry for the dogs.

Why?

Being washed, brushed, hair dried, and not allowed to do what normal dogs do, have fun in nature. And all the transport and waiting in cages, etc, etc. That on top of all the ridiculous breeding for fashionable traits which put so many of them at huge risk.

Aren't normal dogs shampooed, dried and brushed?

Ours were. One cocker spaniel used to love nothing better than getting filthy and needed bathing.
Our terrier didn't like it be but it was better than ending up being shaved because his fur got so matted.

I do agree about some of the breeding traits which can cause problems, for instance with breathing.

Claremont Fri 07-Mar-25 20:46:01

The Kennel Club has a lot to answer for sad

Claremont Fri 07-Mar-25 20:24:38

merlotgran

Allsorts

I feel a bit sorry for the dogs.

Why?

Being washed, brushed, hair dried, and not allowed to do what normal dogs do, have fun in nature. And all the transport and waiting in cages, etc, etc. That on top of all the ridiculous breeding for fashionable traits which put so many of them at huge risk.

Claremont Fri 07-Mar-25 20:22:17

Hate it. My dogs are mixed rescue mutts and their life is all about running free with other dogs, rolling in all sorts, sleeping in the hay in the sun, or in their bed dreaming of catching rabbits.

Barleyfields Fri 07-Mar-25 20:14:16

I don’t think they can begin to make up for the suffering caused by the deliberately bred deformities.

Deedaa Fri 07-Mar-25 20:10:29

It's really interesting now that we are getting so many foreign breeds. At one time you rarely saw anything that wasn't in the I-Spy Dogs book. Sadly dogs like the German Shepherd are getting more deformed every year, but the Border Collies in Fly Ball make up for a lot!

valdavi Fri 07-Mar-25 19:14:35

My dog would adore to be driven all over the country & bathed & groomed a lot. He loves all 3.

Cossy Fri 07-Mar-25 19:08:33

I like parts of Crufts, but do agree that’s it’s a bit harsh on the dogs having to be constantly driven all over the country and bathed and groomed so much.

Having said that, I do like the agility and all the other bits where dogs are working or showing a skill, in my experience dogs enjoy the bits where they actually can do something, especially working dogs.

Has anyone come across Dock Dogs? Our working cocker lived this, though we only did it for fun.

Indigo8 Fri 07-Mar-25 18:15:36

JamesandJon33

Never been inclined to watch it, so I suppose hate it

I think you are allowed to be indifferent.grin

merlotgran Fri 07-Mar-25 18:02:47

Allsorts

I feel a bit sorry for the dogs.

Why?

Allsorts Fri 07-Mar-25 17:56:22

I feel a bit sorry for the dogs.

Rula Fri 07-Mar-25 17:45:54

Just seen a gorgeous clip of Ernest, puppy who is being trained for the police force I believe. He's sound asleep on his trainer's shoulder.

JamesandJon33 Fri 07-Mar-25 17:33:49

Never been inclined to watch it, so I suppose hate it

Barleyfields Fri 07-Mar-25 17:11:52

I’m another dog lover who is no fan of Crufts. The features which have been bred into some breeds of dogs which are sought by the judges are nothing short of cruel. I never watch it, on principle.

MayBee70 Fri 07-Mar-25 17:09:08

I forgot to watch it this afternoon ( got a rotten cold and don’t feel quite with it). Enjoyed yesterdays, even enjoyed the flyball. It must be really exciting to take part in. My dogs breeder won best veteran with her greyhound and it was lovely to see the whippet do so well. There seemed to be more brindles and even a couple of black and whites in the final. The Jack Russell that won was adorable.

shysal Fri 07-Mar-25 16:53:50

I love the judging show, but dislike the flyball and agility, very boring after a while. I loved the two class winners yesterday. The Jack Russell and Whippet had that certain something that made their characters stand out. It was obvious that they loved taking part.
Showing would not be for me, but I admire the dedication of those who do, as long as the dogs have plenty of ordinary family fun between times.

Rula Fri 07-Mar-25 16:50:49

I'm a dog lover. One of those who prefers dogs to many humans

Not a fan of Crufts. It's grim. I grew up with pedigree dogs, we always had English Setters, Afghans, Irish wolfhounds. All glorious but I prefer a rescue dog

We've had about 14 over the years. Greyhounds, (gorgeous), lurcher, Jack Russell's X, mixed breeds galore.

We only have one at present, a senior JR with an expanding waistline. Bit like me

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 07-Mar-25 16:34:30

I’m not a fan.
Disclaimer: over the years we’ve had 3 pedigree dogs.

Indigo8 Fri 07-Mar-25 16:29:38

I know that dog lovers are divided about Crufts.

I usually watch bits of it. I particularly enjoy Flyball but I have mixed feelings about the breed classes.

I have never owned or lived with any dogs so I view it as an outsider.