Lives that must revolve around Politics

I see no reason at all to be worried about the OP PN. Some people do seem to be totally consumed by political issues. She’s not, nor am I.

Ah well, even he doesn't want to talk about it. Same reaction as some on GN often.

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fancythat

Oreo

I think I get where the OP is coming from.And is correct in that other things in life are much more important, enjoying our short lives on this planet with family and friends is an absolute key to happiness and contentment, but politics? Not so much.

Thanks.

But isn't it extremely arrogant to think that those who enjoy discussing politics don't have anything else in there lives? Surely this is just a poor sad soul who is feeling unheard in her real life?

I repeat, I wonder if we should be worried about this member.

petra

Allira

To be clear, I thought I was very, but maybe not, there does seem to be an assumption that others have, of everyone

I must be having an off day, but that isn't very clear, sorry.

It’s not you. 😂

Although I am having an off day!

Allira

^To be clear, I thought I was very, but maybe not, there does seem to be an assumption that others have, of everyone^

I must be having an off day, but that isn't very clear, sorry.

It’s not you. 😂

But there are other people who dont.
They may be
putting food on table
Giving birth
Childcare
Looking after elderly or dying parents
Multiple hospital visits

All of which can be affected, favourably or adversely, by politics and politicians.

You said it in your "rant". What rubbish.

To be clear, I thought I was very, but maybe not, there does seem to be an assumption that others have, of everyone

I must be having an off day, but that isn't very clear, sorry.

fancythat

To be clear, I thought I was very, but maybe not, there does seem to be an assumption that others have, of everyone
oh, I just cant be bothered to repeat myself. I have written carefully enough what I needed to say.
Thanks for those who understand.
End of rant. Good.

to be clear, I thought I was very, but maybe not
Very what?
Curiouser and Curiouser.

Kandinsky 'I’m not having to back up what I’m saying with 6 different links etc etc.'

no-one is forcing you to do this.

BUT, if you do write things which sound like nonsense, or even propaganda or lies- it is fair enough for others to require you to back your sources. You can ignore, of course, but then some will come to the conclusion that it was indeed one of the two above. Fair enough too.

Furret

Trouble is … by not taking an interest in politics we handover power to certain types. Parish, Town, District, County Councils are finding it harder to get volunteers to stand for election.

The very people, ordinary citizens like many on here, who are representative of their communities, who know what needs doing, really don’t want to stand.

Pity.

I am very active on environmental issues and especially plastic waste getting into the sea. As a result I've attended several meetings of our local town council and made contributions. Every time I go they ask if I will stand for election but it's such a time consuming and thankless task anyone who does it deserves a medal.

I have to say too, that a lot of the time it is a group (of mostly older men with very set views) chatting amongst themselves and not really getting a lot done. I can understand why people wouldn't want to give up their time to this.

Gosh, are you talking about my DH? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I sympathise. It is totally and utterly draining when a person becomes obsessed with politics - not to mention very boring.
It annoys me because I am interested - but I don't want to be obsessed in this way.

Oh for goodness sake just turn the radio or tv off and don't read the newspapers. Politics does rule our lives in an indirect way you just cant deny it. If that's ak you have to worry abut, well you are a ver fortunate soul.

I don't think that it is mandatory for anyone to be interested in anything at all.
Nor do I think that the list of the OP's main preoccupations and an interest in politics is/are necessarily mutually exclusive.
As for using Gransnet, there are a great variety of discussion topics available, that is why I like it.
Sometimes I'm interested in political topics; sometimes not.
Each to their own.

This is such an odd thread. What’s that old saying -
All the world is queer save thee and me, and even thou art a little queer.
Just about sums it up.

Whitewavemark2

We could be having the same conversation about almost every other thread.

I bet there are some posters who exclusively stick to the chat about food or TV or knitting, gardening, reading, or the Good Morning or kitchen thread etc etc.

My question is

So?

This is one of the more pointless threads, which has an undercurrent of nastiness about it.

Absolutely agree. Anyway half a dozen short posts on GN of a day, hardly counts as an obsession.

Personally. I wouldn't comsider someone had an obsession unless they were posting 30 or 40 posts a day and bringing it into threads about M&S. Most people post on subjects that interest them, why is politics, to be excluded?

I certainly do have people in real life I can talk politics with. DH and I will discuss items as they come up in the news or in the newspapers and DS, his best mate and I all comment on Facebook. Both can be very wittily excoriating - and I do like a good excoriation now and again

On the other hand. I talk textiles and costume with DD, post a lot on websites about listed buildings and their upkeep - subjects that never really appear on GN!

So why not add your voice if you have something different to say? More interesting than sniping from the sidelines, surely?

Well, firstly, I haven’t got anything interesting to say, nothing that no one else is saying anyway .
And secondly, starting a thread does actually take up a lot of time. You have to read the responses and reply to them, that’s time consuming.
Yes I’m doing it now, but I’m not having to think much about this reply, I’m not having to back up what I’m saying with 6 different links etc etc.

fancythat

To be clear, I thought I was very, but maybe not, there does seem to be an assumption that others have, of everyone
oh, I just cant be bothered to repeat myself. I have written carefully enough what I needed to say.
Thanks for those who understand.
End of rant. Good.

To be clear, I thought I was very, but maybe not, there does seem to be an assumption that others have, of everyone
oh, I just cant be bothered to repeat myself. I have written carefully enough what I needed to say.
Thanks for those who understand.
End of rant. Good.

Furret

Trouble is … by not taking an interest in politics we handover power to certain types. Parish, Town, District, County Councils are finding it harder to get volunteers to stand for election.

The very people, ordinary citizens like many on here, who are representative of their communities, who know what needs doing, really don’t want to stand.

Pity.

You have a point.

Younger people especially are time poor.

Former MP Dennis Skinner - voted out in 2019 - was an exceptionally ferocious and dedicated Labour politician for many years.
I think the fact that he had been a miner previously, had done actual bloody hard work and got his hands dirty may have had something to do with it.

You say you haven't got the time, inclination or energy, and yet you've been arguing this on two threads non stop.

Lovely day today, sun, birds singing, off to the garden with the dogs. Enjoy your day- whatever YOU choose to do with it.

And this is where I lose you totally.

'But I do object to anyone, anywhere, expecting or even demanding others to be, or have the time or interest or ability or inclination, to do the same thing.'

who, where and when, has anyone expected you, or demanded of you, to do anything of the sort.

NO-ONE.

Trouble is … by not taking an interest in politics we handover power to certain types. Parish, Town, District, County Councils are finding it harder to get volunteers to stand for election.

The very people, ordinary citizens like many on here, who are representative of their communities, who know what needs doing, really don’t want to stand.

Pity.

Kandinsky

Well, when I occasionally post ( or look ) on the political threads it’s always the same people there - I’d skim read some and it would be the same people posting more or less all day.
It’s not a difficult thing to work out.

If you were skim reading it, Kandinsky you were not reading the details and the implications of them, so you were not aware of the injections of new stuff (facts, references, opinions and and links to analyses by expert commentators) The actual posters may mostly have been the "the same people posting more or less all day" but the views and facts they quote and link to are from a very wide variety of sources.

If you have some different sources and views to contribute, perhaps you could share them?