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Harry’s over for a Court case but not to see his Papa. šŸ¤”

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 08-Apr-25 12:56:51

Charles & Camilla flew out to Rome on a planned visit so they missed one another by mere hours. Harry obviously didn’t want to spend any time with them. He will have known of their itinerary. There are so few occasions when he does fly over now from Montecito. An opportunity lost, especially with his father’s health I think.

Allira Fri 02-May-25 22:15:19

He regrets a decision made in 2020 that affects his every single day, apparently.

Wasn't that his decision?

I used to think Que Sera Sera about the pair of them; whatever, have a good life etc.
But now he is just making me very angry. Please go back to the States and stay out of the limelight, just as you wanted.

Mollygo Fri 02-May-25 22:15:02

Sorry, so irritated!
If the BBC are going to keep replaying that self-pity-fest by Harry, I’ll have to watch ITV news.

M0nica Fri 02-May-25 22:13:47

I read the extracts from the interview published on the BBC website. My immediate response was that it was an exercise in passive aggression.

Once again he is whining and complaining and blaming everyone bar himself. His pose of injured innocence is just that, a pose.

Allira Fri 02-May-25 22:11:58

Why are they giving him all this airtime?
He's irrelevant.

Mollygo Fri 02-May-25 22:10:23

I’m going to keep replaying that pity fest by Harry, I’m going to watch ITV News instead.

twiglet77 Fri 02-May-25 22:10:21

Interview on BBC news.

ā€œI can forgiveā€¦ā€

Me me me me me…

Allira Fri 02-May-25 22:06:29

Then along comes Harry saying he doesn’t know how long his father has got. That’s always the last thing anyone dealing with cancer wants to hear from anyone and certainly not from a close family member bleating to the whole world because he’s lost his court appeal.

Just seen that on BBC News, merlotgran
That is just awful, dreadful man, how dare he speak of a fami,y member like that 🤬

No wonder they're keeping him at arm's length for the sake of their own health and sanity.

He has no self-awareness?

twiglet77 Fri 02-May-25 22:05:01

How DARE he use his father’s health in such a selfish, manipulative way, but we expect no better from this truly nasty little whinger.

I hope he and his vile narcissist of a wife never set foot here again. Hateful people.

Anniebach Fri 02-May-25 22:04:06

That couple don’t do ā€˜low key’, he even told the world what he said to his grandmother’s body when he went to Balmoral after her death , sick.

Casdon Fri 02-May-25 22:02:10

I’m not that interested in the royals, but what struck me about Harry’s speech today was how much he reminded me of Meghan’s father going public with exaggerated claims about his wish for reconciliation. It’s just not going to work, because there is nothing more likely to put the backs of the people you want to reconcile with more than you going public.

Allira Fri 02-May-25 21:57:22

Septimia

What I saw of the interview reminded me of his mother saying that there were 3 in her marriage - the same doe eyes, blaming everyone else and looking for sympathy. But he produced the book that worsened the relationship with his family. It's sad though when there's estrangement in any family (I know it's necesssary for some people).

I think it's provably necessary for the King and his family, especially his DDIL in this country.
Neither need more stress or upset and Harry is so unpredictable any rapprochement could be fraught with anxiety that he might give interviews at every perceived slight, where real or imagined.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 02-May-25 21:52:38

Well I suppose I meant for a quick visit AFTER the official bit.
ā€œWhere there’s a will ā€¦ā€ etc. before they fly home. No need to dress up (it’s family after all) just meet over a pot of tea. Keep things simple and low key.

Septimia Fri 02-May-25 21:51:10

What I saw of the interview reminded me of his mother saying that there were 3 in her marriage - the same doe eyes, blaming everyone else and looking for sympathy. But he produced the book that worsened the relationship with his family. It's sad though when there's estrangement in any family (I know it's necesssary for some people).

merlotgran Fri 02-May-25 21:44:56

How about it Hazza? Pop over to spend an hour with your dad while he’s that way on?

I doubt he’d be allowed anywhere near the King on an official visit. Nothing will be allowed to upset the apple cart which is a Sussex speciality.

Today is Charlotte’s tenth birthday BTW. šŸ¤”

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 02-May-25 21:27:30

I tried to think the best of them both when they left - that was fine, no problem, but the pit Harry keeps digging gets deeper and deeper

Me too Allira.
I remember thinking ā€˜lovely couple, brave decision if that’s what they want’. I actually felt a bit sad to be honest. As if, somehow, we weren’t good enough. Hey ho.

I see King Charles and Camilla are due to be in Canada on 26th and 27th May. I bet to be so near to his grandchildren will tug at Charles’ heartstrings somewhat when they board the jet home again. How about it Hazza? Pop over to spend an hour with your dad while he’s that way on?

Jaxjacky Fri 02-May-25 21:14:17

I’m speechless, what a self serving individual, manipulated or not by his wife, what a waste of the person he could have been.

Allira Fri 02-May-25 21:09:54

merlotgran

What angered me about that interview was he spoke of his father’s cancer in such a self pitying way.

The king has been nothing but stoic throughout his treatment, sharing as much information as he feels appropriate, praising the professionalism of the team caring for him and giving encouragement to others on a similar journey. Not once has he shown a hint of negativity.

Then along comes Harry saying he doesn’t know how long his father has got. That’s always the last thing anyone dealing with cancer wants to hear from anyone and certainly not from a close family member bleating to the whole world because he’s lost his court appeal.

That’s what it’s really about isn’t it Harry?

Selfish, selfish man. No wonder his father won’t speak to him.

Oh, well said merlotgran

It's just all about him, isn't it!! Even when a parent is ill, stoically carrying on and thinking of others, it's still all about Harry.
Self-pity is just another attention-seeking trait.

I tried to think the best of them both when they left - that was fine, no problem, but the pit Harry keeps digging gets deeper and deeper.

woodenspoon Fri 02-May-25 20:54:36

He is truly awful. He only wants reconciliation so he can worm his way back in while the king is alive. He knows William will have no hesitation in coming down hard on him when he is king. He wants to be able to pop in and out at a whim, undermine his brothers reign and destabilise him. I am so very glad that the courts got it right for once.

Sadgrandma Fri 02-May-25 20:46:33

Presumably they are paying for their own security in the US ( I can’t imagine that Trump is) so why does he expect us to pay over here? I doubt he and his family are in any more danger here than they are over there.

escaped Fri 02-May-25 19:47:15

Especially merlotgran. šŸ‘ šŸ‘

escaped Fri 02-May-25 19:45:35

I agree with everyone over the past two pages here. I don't see how anyone can see it otherwise.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 02-May-25 19:45:16

merlotgran

What angered me about that interview was he spoke of his father’s cancer in such a self pitying way.

The king has been nothing but stoic throughout his treatment, sharing as much information as he feels appropriate, praising the professionalism of the team caring for him and giving encouragement to others on a similar journey. Not once has he shown a hint of negativity.

Then along comes Harry saying he doesn’t know how long his father has got. That’s always the last thing anyone dealing with cancer wants to hear from anyone and certainly not from a close family member bleating to the whole world because he’s lost his court appeal.

That’s what it’s really about isn’t it Harry?

Selfish, selfish man. No wonder his father won’t speak to him.

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eazybee Fri 02-May-25 19:43:53

I saw a little of the interview.
Does he really imagine that people in Britain care about what happens to him?
Sadly, I think he does.
That's how out of touch he is.

Rosie51 Fri 02-May-25 19:43:19

Harry says he wants reconciliation, and I expect he does. He'd love to be able to swan into and out of UK with full protection at the click of his fingers. He must see though how hard it would be for his family to ever relax in his company. I'd not trust him to be truthful about any encounters, and you'd always be wondering if anything was going to feature in a book in the future. He had no compunction about revealing private medical knowledge about his brother. Or about outing the woman to whom he lost his virginity. And why? Not because it needed to be known but for gratuitous titillation. I think he's a very troubled man, but I'm afraid so much is of his own making. If he could self reflect to the point of gaining some humility he might be a sight happier.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 02-May-25 19:41:42

I think Harry will have broken his Papa’s heart but I am sure he still loves him dearly.
Families eh?

I’m glad he wasn’t granted security paid for by the UK government. He’d be hopping to and fro doing his own thing and absolutely no relevance to us all. Good decision by the Courts in my opinion. Harry is rich in his own right I hope he doesn’t take this to the Supreme Court. What he’s been spending (and lost) would have paid for an awful lot of security.